Gaining poular support?

**DthaV** · 05-21-2007, 18:06

I'm a new player to RTW, and all my provinces are happy, I have conquered 15 provinces and defeated the Gauls. I'm playing as the Juli and wish to attack the other roman factions. How does one get this aspect of the game started?

**Globe** · 05-21-2007, 19:48

First of all, gongrats.
For your question: You have to gain support from your people.
You can see that at Senate' scroll. Just build some temples or so...

**Shieldmaiden** · 05-21-2007, 20:02

The idea is to continue until:

1) The People love you enough to trigger a message about being powerful to consider Rome and kicking out the SPQR.

The People love a conqueror and empire builder, and I believe capturing cities is the easiest way to get their support.

OR

2) The Senate hates you enough to demand your faction leaders suicide. Say no and they'll outlaw your faction.

If either happens, you can feel free to begin the civil war.

**Theodoric** · 05-21-2007, 20:33

I was able to start a civil war without receiving either of those two messages. I had about 30 provinces and I just decided it was time to take Italy from the other families. I just attacked and nothing prevented me. I had never received either a message from the people or the Senate. My ratings were fairly high with both groups, 7-8 out of 10.

**Shieldmaiden** · 05-21-2007, 21:02

Yes, but is there any difference?

I.e - a penalty if you haven't had the "your popular.." or "hated.." messages?

I've yet to try beginning a civil war without getting 1 of those messages myself.

Its one thing I'm not very clear on, are the messages just a hint or not?

**Theodoric** · 05-22-2007, 21:46

Originally Posted by Shieldmaiden

Yes, but is there any difference?

I.e - a penalty if you haven't had the "your popular.." or "hated.." messages?

I've yet to try beginning a civil war without getting 1 of those messages myself.

Its one thing I'm not very clear on, are the messages just a hint or not?

No... no penalty. Actually what happened was: I was the Brutii and I attacked the Scipii. I had received neither message because my popularity was high with both Senate and mob. The Senate and other factions declared war on me. I took the Scipii city. The Senate then actually asked for a ceasefire with me, re-allied with me, and asked me to attack one of the other Roman factions that they had outlawed. I thought this was strange that they would outlaw another faction, because we had all been at peace until I started the civil war. I think the Senate just didn't want to have a conflict with me. I was extremely strong and I basically just rolled over the Senate and other Romans.

**IceWolf** · 05-21-2007, 21:14

COnquer conquer, conquer. The people love a winner. Since you've taken the Gauls take out the Brits or th Spanish. That'll increase your popularity with the masses and make the senate jealous thereby hasteninig the civil war.

IceWolf

**Zanar** · 05-21-2007, 21:20

I've gotten a message where my popularity with the senate was high and i had
a family member in the higest possible office.

**guineawolf** · 05-22-2007, 05:33

Originally Posted by Shieldmaiden

The idea is to continue until:

1) The People love you enough to trigger a message about being powerful to consider Rome and kicking out the SPQR.

The People love a conqueror and empire builder, and I believe capturing cities is the easiest way to get their support.

OR

2) The Senate hates you enough to demand your faction leaders suicide. Say no and they'll outlaw your faction.

If either happens, you can feel free to begin the civil war.

does anyone say yes to the demand of faction leader suicide?and what is the consequense?

**Omanes Alexandrapolites** · 05-22-2007, 09:04

Hi guineawolf,

Originally Posted by guineawolf

does anyone say yes to the demand of faction leader suicide?and what is the consequense?

The consequences are death to your faction leader. It's not always bad though. If your faction leader is a corrupt feind who might as well not exisit, then he may be better off dead. Refusal, on the other hand, results in instant civil war! That can be very good if your not very popular and want control over Rome, but it can be terrible if your borderline defences with other Romans are very weak. Hope this helps, cheers!

BTW, adding to all the useful information that has been said, it is also a good idea to suicide useless generals who provide negative bonuses to popular happiness through their vile traits and habits. That said, it's also a good idea to keep generals that boost your popularity, alive and well so their bonuses can continue

**Shieldmaiden** · 05-22-2007, 11:10

I've found bribing the other Romans close to my Cities very effective, especially if I didn't begin the civil war through choice and I'm not well prepared.

Obviously, you'd need to be rich

**guineawolf** · 05-22-2007, 16:14

Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites

Hi guineawolf,
The consequences are death to your faction leader. It's not always bad though. If your faction leader is a corrupt feind who might as well not exisit, then he may be better off dead. Refusal, on the other hand, results in instant civil war! That can be very good if your not very popular and want control over Rome, but it can be terrible if your borderline defences with other Romans are very weak. Hope this helps, cheers!

yeah,thanks....coz i only receive such message once in my first RTW campaign as Scipii,that make me decide to war with fellow romans,we won't die for no reasons with just someone pleasessss......