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    Default Re: Small question: What armour is this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwin
    So...I guess this type of armour doesn't even have a name? Like...quiltothorax...
    No, it doesn't have a name, and there's no way to tell what it was made of. The only evidence for any sort of quilted armour, almost entirely from red figure vases, stopped appearing around the middle of the 4th C. BC. This evidence consists of iconographic representations of armour with criss-cross patterns on it. These could be attempts to represent scales, quilting, or some sort of stitched-on design, or they could be something else entirely that we're just not aware of. Even these, though, are otherwise exactly like the tube-and-yoke cuirass in form, having pteruges and shoulder yokes, and nothing like the jerkin represented here on the Cretan archers.

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    Default Re: Small question: What armour is this?

    This was written by Urnamma in the internal forums. Sorry this took so long to get out to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Urnamma
    Both leather and linen are acceptable coverings for the linothorax.

    Fragments of quilted armor have been found on Rhodes ~350 B.C. (many layers of cloth stitched together in a warrior grave)

    A much more substantial find is mycanaean in origin, from Crete. There are also Ptolemaic stelae and terra cotta figures showing quilted linen. Furthermore, As MP seemed to point out, there are red figure vases with quilted patterns.

    The agora in Athens provides us another scrap, this one more closely Hellenistic, of layered linen, though very small.

    This same sort of armor appears in the Greek east, on Parthians, and especially in Graeco-Bactria and India, in several representations on several pieces.
    Also, it appears that the quilted armor seen on the Cretans was also used by the Persian military.

    I hope this answers your question, Dwin.

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    Wink Re: Small question: What armour is this?

    its obiviosly a secret elven cloak known only to cretans duh lol =p


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    Quote Originally Posted by MeinPanzer
    No, it doesn't have a name, and there's no way to tell what it was made of. The only evidence for any sort of quilted armour, almost entirely from red figure vases, stopped appearing around the middle of the 4th C. BC. This evidence consists of iconographic representations of armour with criss-cross patterns on it.
    MP, I think you know that during 4th century red figure vases started to disappear, with some of very bad style, and others super good, but with mithological/banquete scenes and extremaly rare.
    Armour of any kind is extremely difficult to be found on vases from mid 4th century - this the reason why this type disappear also.

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