Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick!!! Check out this poll on American Muslims!!!

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 05-24-2007, 03:32

Are you quite for real, Gaw ?

Quite. In reality the only thing that seperates these people is religion.

And no, don't bother arguing theological doctrine with me, I'm not interested. I was only interested in your appeal to the Noah family tree - the interest being that of an incredulous observer, amazed that someone from a 1st world nation would actually believe in the literal historicity of the bible. Especially a bit about the whole of mankind being descended from the 3 children of a bloke who built a big boat to escape a flood.

I was only stating where the name came from . And there are many historical facts in the bible. Im amazed that you doubt it. Do I believe that we all are desended from Noah and that the story of Noah is fact. Hell no. I believe its based on stories from earlier religions and that there was at sometime a flood on earth that this story sprang from. Theres one from Mesoptania that comes to mind. I do believe we are all originally the same race and peoples however and that in reality there is only one race that being the human race. We all started in Africa. Its one of the reasons the term African american is ludicrous to me.

**Pannonian** · 05-24-2007, 03:36

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

I was only stating where the name came from . And there are many historical facts in the bible. Im amazed that you doubt it. Do I believe that we all are desended from Noah and that the story of Noah is fact. Hell no. I believe its based on stories from earlier religions and that there was at sometime a flood on earth that this story sprang from. Theres one from Mesoptania that comes to mind. I do believe we are all originally the same race and peoples however and that in reality there is only one race that being the human race. We all started in Africa. Its one of the reasons the term African american is ludicrous to me.

So why are you so ready to appeal to "ancestral homeland" when defending Israel's, and specifically Jews' claim to that land?

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 05-24-2007, 03:43

So why are you so ready to appeal to "ancestral homeland" when defending Israel's, and specifically Jews' claim to that land?

I didnt start that I was replying to others who claimed that this was the Palestinians homeland. I was basicly saying if that if thats so then its the homeland of the Israelis first. I find the argument from either side that it used to be theirs falacious. All that matters is now.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 05-24-2007, 04:22

Back on topic

Im sorry I missed this before

I think if you would ask:
"Can the bombing of civilian targets be justified in the defense of Christianity?" you very likely would get (significantly) lower percentages of "positive" answers.

Significantly doesnt do this justice

But back to your original question

Can you defend the use of suicide bombing in defense of your religion. Not if your religion is a religion of peace you cant.

PS is it only me or do any others of you feel better that we have the patriot act after looking at this?

**ajaxfetish** · 05-24-2007, 04:31

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

PS is it only me or do any others of you feel better that we have the patriot act after looking at this?

Considering the others who have posted comparisons to polls of Americans in general on the subject . . . nope.

Ajax

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 05-24-2007, 04:36

Considering the others who have posted comparisons to polls of Americans in general on the subject . . . nope.

So you answer for all now. Also I wasnt aware that any of these polls claimed 100% support for anything so some may well agree with me. Im no big fan of the patriot act but knowing we have so many people here in the US who believe this scares me more than that does. Not only that I put little stock in these polls. Ive conducted them too many times for SUNY. They get the answers they seek.

**ajaxfetish** · 05-24-2007, 04:44

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

So you answer for all now. Also I wasnt aware that any of these polls claimed 100% support for anything so some may well agree with me. Im no big fan of the patriot act but knowing we have so many people here in the US who believe this scares me more than that does. Not only that I put little stock in these polls. Ive conducted them too many times for SUNY. They get the answers they seek.

Huh? I answer for me. When did I say I answer for all? And if you don't put much stock in these polls, why does it make you feel better about the Patriot Act?

Ajax