Next stop Iran

[Zaknafien]

The Corporotacracy sure seems to want war with Iran--more contracts, more rebuilding money, more exlpoitation. We've been on this military footing for decades, its high past time we removed all the occupational bases in foreign countries and quit meddling with the world like it was there to serve us.

and by the way, the Constitution states that the army is for the defense of the republic and nothing else. We all know about the 'entangling alliances' too. We've been interfering for decades in things that don't concern us, which is the primary reason most of the world hates american policy.

[discovery1]

So anyone care to guess the real reason why it was announced that we are doing sneaksie things in Iran? Just to scare Mr. Aminajad?

[Redleg]

The Corporotacracy sure seems to want war with Iran--more contracts, more rebuilding money, more exlpoitation. We've been on this military footing for decades, its high past time we removed all the occupational bases in foreign countries and quit meddling with the world like it was there to serve us.

LOL continue on with such thoughts, eventually you might even stumble across one that is correct.

and by the way, the Constitution states that the army is for the defense of the republic and nothing else. We all know about the 'entangling alliances' too. We've been interfering for decades in things that don't concern us, which is the primary reason most of the world hates american policy.

Actually the Constitution does not state that, it is an interpatation of the wording but no such explicit statement exists that I know of.

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress

Now congress has given up or ignored several aspects of these key powers that were granted to the body by the Constitution and its subsequent ratification by the people, but the military is only to defend the United States is not a stated power.

[Zaknafien]

well launching an aggressive, offensive, illegal war on either Iraq or Iran isnt part of 'repelling invasions' or suppressing any insurrection either.

[ShadeHonestus]

well launching an aggressive, offensive, illegal war on either Iraq or Iran isnt part of 'repelling invasions' or suppressing any insurrection either.

For the militias...

[ajaxfetish]

well launching an aggressive, offensive, illegal war on either Iraq or Iran isnt part of 'repelling invasions' or suppressing any insurrection either.

If you look carefully, you'll note those were listed as duties of the militia, not the army.

Ajax

[Zaknafien]

last time i checked the national guard was a militia.

[ajaxfetish]

last time i checked the national guard was a militia.

So would you like to reword your position to 'It's okay for our army to interfere in things that don't concern us, as long as the national guard isn't used'?

Ajax

[Redleg]

last time i checked the national guard was a militia.

The part of the constitution you should complain about rightly is that the constitution does not give authority to a standing army, only a standing navy.

And the National Guard has its foundation in the militia concept but its no longer a militia per say -

[Zaknafien]

how would U.S. "Law" have any relevance whatsoever in any other country, Iran in paticular?

[Redleg]

well launching an aggressive, offensive, illegal war on either Iraq or Iran isnt part of 'repelling invasions' or suppressing any insurrection either.

You did notice this little line in the Constitution now didn't you, especially since you did use part of the sentence in your response.

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions


The laws of the Union are those legislative measures passed by the Congress.

This is rather elementary constitional law.