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    Given that so much 'pawn' is surfed for on the internet is there going to be some sort of new adult versions of the happy meal home delivered?

    Brings a whole new meaning to supersized. Would you feel comfortable to saying no, no I'm not?
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    Google's declaration of intent was publicised at the same time it emerged that the company had also invested £2m in a human genetics firm called 23andMe. The combination of genetic and internet profiling could prove a powerful tool in the battle for the greater understanding of the behaviour of an online service user.
    Huh ? What are they planning ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    I'd be interested to know how EU privacy law has played and may play a part in restricting possible invasions of privacy by this US based company.
    EU's privacy laws will do practically nothing. The servers arent in the EU and the companies in the USA. Whats more realistic is Google will be sued for putting spyware on millions of computers. Also a crime in most states, including CA.

    Creepy stuff though. Maybe this could be useful. Off to go google the meaning of life.
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    Borgworld. I'm telling you.

    For this reason I try to limit the amount of personal info about me on the web. Unfortunately because of my job and political dabblings, I can't do this as much as I would like, but as for myspace and the like, fergedaboutit.

    Remember farenheit 451, and how the government kept tabs on people who didn't watch their telly all night like good citizens, and did things like go for walks instead? Its all going to come true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Huh ? What are they planning ?
    Combining electronic data with genetics is the ultimate control freak's wet dream. I didn't know Google was up to this.

    Suddenly I'm all for Bill Gates. I mean it. I am going to de-install whatever Google files I can find and never look back.

    Morons.
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    I wonder how this will work. If I search for "9/11" "Al-Qaeda" "Bomb", will the google service recommend me to become a suicide bomber today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    I wonder how this will work. If I search for "9/11" "Al-Qaeda" "Bomb", will the google service recommend me to become a suicide bomber today?
    They would probably at least mark you as suspicious or "in need of investigation."
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    Why? What if I do this to search for news articles? Similarly, I heard some story about someone being arrested and interrogated for borrowing some communist book in either a European or American country. The problem was, he was a student in history and reading the book for research, but assumed to be a communist-terrorist for requesting it from his library. I don't believe a computer algorithm or human being either for that matter can draw very accurate conclusions about people's intentions or desires from looking at their log in a particular place.

    One more example are those "customized ads" that appear. If you search for something that you have a temporary interest in, but don't want to hear a thing about once you've looked it up, you will still end up seeing ads within that particular field for months before they go away - really annoying. I actually tend to click more on banners that are randomly chosen, than about customized ads based on my visitor patterns. The customized ads incorrectly assumes that what I looked for once is something I'll keep looking for, whereas in fact I tend to NOT want what I've just looked at, because I hopefully found it and have no reason whatsoever to search for it again. Some of the "customized ads" are really bad, because they start customizing for you even when they only have data from 1 visit from you. Then this effect tends to get even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    Why? (...) Similarly, I heard some story about someone being arrested and interrogated for borrowing some communist book in either a European or American country. The problem was, he was a student in history and reading the book for research, but assumed to be a communist-terrorist for requesting it from his library. I don't believe a computer algorithm or human being either for that matter can draw very accurate conclusions about people's intentions or desires from looking at their log in a particular place.
    Because they don't know which is why they would investigate the person.
    It's not at all meant to be a perfect concluder of facts (though if they are really that illogical (or stupid), they should not even be in the position to judge in the first place), but as a hint to "possibly dangerous ones". Then when they have investigated they can be sure whether the person in question is really dangerous or not.

    By the way, you used the word "Similarly" as if your hypothetical idea of...
    I wonder how this will work. If I search for "9/11" "Al-Qaeda" "Bomb", will the google service recommend me to become a suicide bomber today?
    ...was similar to the first quote in this post. It did not include something as... "noticeable" as "Bomb", then again what I've read about the story of the student wanting to do communist research is hearsay at best without factual detail.

    Or "Similarly" was used to refer to the idea of...
    What if I do this to search for news articles?
    ...but we don't know if it is similar because the story about the student is (presumably) true, and whether you've done the search and have been investigated and arrested and interrogated.
    If we would have to judge with the current information, it is probably false that you yourself have been arrested and interrogated, though the registration of your search, if true, can be assumed to be true at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II
    Combining electronic data with genetics is the ultimate control freak's wet dream. I didn't know Google was up to this.

    Suddenly I'm all for Bill Gates. I mean it. I am going to de-install whatever Google files I can find and never look back.

    Morons.
    I'm of the same mind.

    Google wants knowledge of your life - and knowledge is power. Microsoft just sells software to people. Sometimes they're a bit pushy as a business, but they aren't trying to dig up info on you, they just want to sell you stuff.

    Google's plan is to find out everything they can about you. And I think even the emo kid blogging on myspace might hesitate to have all that info kept and neatly stored for the rest of their life.

    Their vision is where they know everything about everybody.

    So, the question is - what's the best search engine excluding google?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    I'm of the same mind.

    Google wants knowledge of your life - and knowledge is power. Microsoft just sells software to people. Sometimes they're a bit pushy as a business, but they aren't trying to dig up info on you, they just want to sell you stuff.

    Google's plan is to find out everything they can about you. And I think even the emo kid blogging on myspace might hesitate to have all that info kept and neatly stored for the rest of their life.

    Their vision is where they know everything about everybody.

    So, the question is - what's the best search engine excluding google?

    CR
    I agree! If someone has a good tip for which alternate search engine to prefer, I'll switch to it asap. I'm a bit tired of the policies of google. Boycott is unfortunately the only way a customer can influence a company's policy.

    Google could at least have the option to turn on/off the collecting of personal info.
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    So, the question is - what's the best search engine excluding google?
    Well most of the others, besides Google, have had a history of handing records over the government already so theres not alot of choices.
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    Nearly every search engine uses google software anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
    Well most of the others, besides Google, have had a history of handing records over the government already so theres not alot of choices.
    Yeah, but only one is planning to know everything about my life and tell me how to run it. I can see searching for various rifles to purchase and get directed to some anti-gun group because google thinks it's good for me.

    And google will hand over records if it has too. Heck, it had to be forced to only keep records for two years.

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