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View Poll Results: Would you download and play a city view mod for vanilla?
Yes, definitely! I'd love to play it 30 66.67%
Maybe, not sure. 8 17.78%
Nah, I didn't like that feature too much 7 15.56%
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Thread: Modding the city view feature in
alpaca 11:58 05-24-2007
Hello everyone,
I developed a script that allows a fairly close representation of the city view feature for M2TW, and the feature will definitely go into our mod (Mediaeval Auctoriso). I am posting this thread here, because I thought maybe players who enjoy vanilla would be interested in such a mod, but since it's a lot of work I don't want to create it without having a good chance of a larger number of downloads.
Here's a description of the feature (taken from our preview thread):

I'm sure you all remember the view city feature from Rome: Total War and a lot of you will have enjoyed seeing how your small capital grows to be a prospering metropolis over the course of your game just as much as I did and were sad to see it gone in M2TW.
Well, don't fret anymore. I found a way to script something that allows you to check out your cities again, and with the new graphics it's much more impressive than in RTW. I couldn't reproduce the peasants running around, but that's a small price to pay and you'll get to see your army there instead.
From a player perspective, the feature will look like this:


As you can see, I made a fully built-up English city to show off my wealth. It even has a huge cathedral which really dominates the skyline as they say in the description

The first step is to open the construction scroll for the settlement you want to view



On that scroll, you have to click on "Locate position of settlement" which will open an advisor asking you whether you want to view the city on the battle map or not.



If you click on "Show me how", you will immediately be taken to the battle screen. You'll have to start the battle as normal (start deployment, then start battle)



But afterwards you will be able to roam your city freely:



Of course you'll have to pay an obligatory visit to the Pleasure Palace:



To remiss your sins afterwards, you should also have a little prayer in the Cathedral:




When you're all done, you simply press Esc and the battle will end after a short while (you'll win it, but don't worry, our trait triggers won't react on that):




Nothing changed on the campaign map, either:




Okay, now on to the explanation:
As most of you probably figured out by now, the script works by spawning an army on the campaign map and giving it the order to attack the settlement. Once in battle, the AI for the catapult will be disabled so it won't attack your precious city walls:



When you hit Esc, the catapult will be killed and the battle ends. Then you go back to the campaign screen.
The only problem is that the stats will show you won a battle more than you actually did, but if that overly annoys you, simply refrain from using the city view feature.


Please let me also hear more personalised opinions, if you have any to give


Edit: Ok, I already set to work on this mod. However, I need help testing it to get any possible bugs (such as certain cities not working). If you'd like to give me a hand with this, please send me a PM

Edit2: I decided to make a release here

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sapi 12:08 05-24-2007
*supports it - I'd use it occasionally for cities that never get combat but get heaps of upgrades

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Ciaran 12:41 05-24-2007
A definite download! The city view is a really nice little feature of RTW, and it´s sad it got lost with M2TW, which has so much more splendid cities - and castles! I´d rather call it the "castle view"
to your skills, Alpaca!

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alpaca 12:56 05-24-2007
Originally Posted by Ciaran:
A definite download! The city view is a really nice little feature of RTW, and it´s sad it got lost with M2TW, which has so much more splendid cities - and castles! I´d rather call it the "castle view"
to your skills, Alpaca!
Well settlement view would probably be more appropriate
I wanted a city for the cathedral as it simply looks astonishing. Still a bit too small though.

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Shahed 13:19 05-24-2007
EXCELLENT ! I'd love to see it, please get to work !

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crpcarrot 13:32 05-24-2007
i'd rather hve civil war or faction remergences would never use well maybe once or twice

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Shahed 13:46 05-24-2007
There are already mods for that. ;) (Emergent factions anyway)

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Tamur 14:05 05-24-2007
All for it here. This is what converted a couple of friends to RTW, seeing the detail in the cities in City View. It would be great to have the possibility again.

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Patricius 19:20 05-24-2007
This rocks



There is a sense in which being able to see my empire up close gives a real sense of ownership. Massillia in RTW has a wonderful view over a river valley. There is also enough of a difference in the surrounding landscape to justify being able to study the view.

Great work.

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Martok 23:49 05-24-2007
Well I'm certainly all for it. It was one of the relatively few features from Rome I truly enjoyed.

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Zenicetus 03:14 05-26-2007
This would be much appreciated. It was fun in RTW to view a newly captured settlement, especially if there were cultural differences from your faction. I'd like to see what the developed settlements in M2TW look like, without the distraction of managing a siege attack or defense.

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Patricius 11:42 05-27-2007
Please release as soon as you can.

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HoreTore 12:49 05-27-2007
Hmm... Would it be possible to make a script allowing you to see the battlefield an army is standing on?

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sapi 12:59 05-27-2007
Doubt it'd be easy, but I'm sure it's possible...

Something like that, considering how often it would be used, really would play with your win/loss ratio.

It would also depend on whether the battlefield is the same depending on the direction of approach (ie whether each square had 8 possible maps or one)

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alpaca 13:00 05-27-2007
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Hmm... Would it be possible to make a script allowing you to see the battlefield an army is standing on?
No because to instigate combat you'd have to know the name of the target which you don't.

On topic: It looks like I'll be doing this. I'm searching for beta testers now who give it a whirl before I make a public release, any volunteers please send me a PM.

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sapi 13:20 05-27-2007
@alpaca

Slightly off topic, but with HoreTore's suggestion, would it be possible to have a custom character (moved around with the move_character cheat) with a known name instigate the battles?

On topic: sounds good

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Patricius 16:44 05-27-2007
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Hmm... Would it be possible to make a script allowing you to see the battlefield an army is standing on?
A very early RTW preview said that it would be possible to watch the armies. Sadly that proved not to be.

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hoom 09:14 05-28-2007
Yes, City view and Army view would be awesome!

I had imagined RTW would do Army view by loading the battlefield & either having the army march in from one side of the field & back out on the other if the army had been moving recently or milling around & parading by a camp if they had been static for that turn.

We were even supposed to get gladiator games & chariot races in RTW.

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