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    Finder of Little Oddities Senior Member Makanyane's Avatar
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    well I looked and I can't spot anything - am hoping someone else might have a go - as I haven't got a working version that's at 1.1 or the METW data, I'd need to unravel a lot to give it any chance to load, then wouldn't know if it was those changes or something else!

    Don't know - I'd opt for superstitious approach - go back to last working version and add completely different region... you've got some un-used region names in the text file like
    {METW_Region_09}
    you could try adding that into descr_regions and see if that works. You seem to be heading beyond anything there is logical explanation for (at least that I can see) so you might as well try something different!
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    yet another ...

    the naming bug (having a character in descr_strat named without a correct entry in descr_names) can show itself in more than 1 way it seems

    I modded the last non-Romans in my game to be Roman so the last 5 factions at the bottom of descr_strat(just above slave) where transformed to Romans in name as well incl. descr_names, I just forgat to copy the last file over to my actual game-folder
    the result was that I first got an error saying it "couldnt create settlement at line xxx" wich was the very first settlement in Julii(Local) hands
    not understanding what was up(errr ...) I removed the super_faction line from the Julii to trigger the known CTD

    seems that "somehow" the game is able to swallow an incorrect name and only give an(incorrect) show_err error if there is enough data between the error and start of the 1st faction
    cant reproduce it though .....


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    Alright, now it's my turn to sort out those wretched CTD's and filthy KTM's!

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    Originally posted by Makanyane
    Symptom: KTM's with message on exit: 'Script error in .../descr_strat.txt, at line xxx, column x. could not create settlement at script line xxx
    Mis-match between colour on map_regions.tga and colour listed in descr_regions.txt for affected settlement.
    Using identical colour for two different regions.
    Originally posted by Red Spot
    the result was that I first got an error saying it "couldnt create settlement at line xxx" wich was the very first settlement in Julii(Local) hands
    not understanding what was up(errr ...) I removed the super_faction line from the Julii to trigger the known CTD

    seems that "somehow" the game is able to swallow an incorrect name real error and only give incorrect show_err error
    Yeah-yea, there must be something else...
    I've checked this and still get KTM with "script error..blah blah...could not create settlement at script line xxx"
    First settlement in descr_strat. Note that I' haven't yet moved characters to apopriate positions, no resources in descr_regions and d_strat, all vanilla factions are presented, AND... have region names like Etruria_1 and Etruria_1s. Maybe number causes this? Now going to continue search...
    Update: the problem was caused by map_regions with 1 region! Somehow edited map was placed in temp folder, while this one martyrized me!
    After replacement first time game crushed shortly before showing map; I have chosed Julli, so I thought that I might be doomed with always-crashing rome , but next time when loaded as seleucids, it (unbelievable) did not crash on a rome view... I 've succesfully scrolled entire map (almost), but it crashes at the end of ai turn (сука).
    So now i'm going to sort that crap (off-top here)....


    btw,
    having lines in RTW descr_strat
    marian_reforms_enabled
    gladiator_uprising_enabled
    causes ktm with "Expected faction - must add at least two factions to the world". I'm sure everyone knows it, but..
    Last edited by Charge; 11-07-2007 at 12:04.

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    Thanks for the reminder on the marian_reforms bit, did discover that but think I forgot to mention it anywhere you should be able to have
    marian_reforms_disabled
    if you want, if you want them active though just don't use the line at all.

    It will give you the must add two factions comment if it falls over anything it doesn't recognise before the factions section.


    If you're getting an error on the first city in descr_strat its likely to be a fundamental problem with the files and not related to that city particularly.
    The file with the region names in data/text is often a problem but I don't know if it will cause that particular problem. It should not mind the number in the region name, I've definitely used numbers before I decided on region names.

    If you get stuck I don't mind having a look, PM me with link to files if you want...
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    Just sorted problem with romans and not having settlements Apollonia, Segesta, Syracuse; it connected with senate missions, as you all know. I spotted it firstly in eb forums, haven't tested how much it dependant of senate presence. It should be added to Symptom: Game CTD's with no message at the end of the campaign loading bar *with romans*.

    btw, strange thing - if I had "Rome" in strings, it shows as "Rom". If I type "Romee" it shows properly :).
    Last edited by Charge; 11-07-2007 at 14:31.

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    Is Rome the last line in the regions and settlements file? If so put an empty line below if and you'll see last letter.

    Re: the Senate mission thing, are you using patch 1.5? For some reason I thought that didn't have problem, but then again I was probably using without senate version...
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    Is Rome the last line in the regions and settlements file?
    Yep,
    the Senate mission thing, are you using patch 1.5?
    Yep.

    And problem with slave-turn also fixed..
    Last edited by Charge; 11-07-2007 at 23:55.

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    A new error / sloution , although it's not really a big problem , but i think it's still worth to mention :

    KTM with error : Could not create settlement xxx on x xxx , y xxx - when the region is correct in descr_regions and map_regions and the region is placed on a valid place

    -Region acutally exists but you forgot to delete map.rwm

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    What's the best way to solve the error of mixed clours ? I hope not checking every pixel myself ..

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    hey makanyane , a new error :

    Symptom: KTM's with message on exit: 'Script error in .../descr_strat.txt, at line xxx, column x. You are trying to place zzzz in this region(yyyy), but it already has a settlement(zzzz).

    * Using a color for the region that looks the same like the real one , but is still different . (so for instance , the normal/vanilla RGB value is 45 , 120 , 85 ; but a part of that region is 50 , 119 , 58 ..)

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    New error you might be interested in:
    When a slave army has no "sub_faction facton name" in descr_strat as first the game will have a CTD ATM you click on start campaign, new map.rmw is generated.
    Last edited by JoristhePagan; 05-30-2009 at 14:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoristhePagan View Post
    New error you might be interested in:
    When a slave army has no "sub_faction facton name" in descr_strat as first the game will have a CTD ATM you click on start campaign, new map.rmw is generated.
    did you use a character name from the 'slave' section of descr_names.txt? if not it might just be a name error - symptom is the same.... if you could let me know on that I'll try and get round to updating the main post soon - cheers
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    I used the name Sautes, which also appears under the slave faction in descr_names.txt

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    Please give me some ideas,I really need this map!

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    Can anyone help me, My campaign map isn't loading either. I added some regions to North Africa, every time I try to load I get a KTM (back to menu). I've worked on the map, the descr_strat, regions, regions lookup and imperial campaign regions and settlements. After a few adjustments and a show err I finally got an err message, now it says
    Script error in
    Data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat, at line 1954, column 12
    Could not create settlement at script line 1954
    The line it refers to belongs to Byzacium (the region with Thapsus, underneath Carthage), the precise line is the population line.
    The guide says 2 solutions, I checked 3 times, but the color in descr_regions was correct, afterwards I just changed the color in both the map and the descr_regions. And still I get the error, can someone help me?
    Last edited by Belisarius III; 02-12-2013 at 09:11.

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    Anyone, please ?

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    Make sure your settlement is not on top of a hill. That usually results in the same error message (not sure about the population line though). You can do that by cross-referencing map_regions with map_heights.

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    I tried to expand the map of RTW 1.3 vanilla as follows: (also tried in 1.0 with same CTDs)

    Placed the original map in the upper left corner of the new tga files, and filled the rest with ground colour:
    RGB (5,5,5) for map_heights.tga
    low fertility ground for Map_ground_types.tga
    mediterranean climate for map_climates.tga
    RGB (0,0,0) for map_features.tga
    in Map_regions.tga the new places were added to an existing region (Elymais, Susa)
    map_trade_routes.tga, map_roughness.tga and disasters.tga are all black (0,0,0)
    water_surface.tga is the original file

    I applied the new size of the map in descr_terrain.txt (343,218) and created <my_campaign>_regions_and_settlement_names.txt as a copy of the imperial campaigns file. All other files are left unchanged.

    When I try to start the campaign with any of the factiont I get a CTD with no error message, the loading bar is not reached and a map.rwm is created.

    This issue is probably not created by characters, wonders or resources got placed on inpassable terrain, because that ought to produce a different error.

    Can anyone please help how to fix this?

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