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    Got a link?

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    Shhhh........I can hear the black helicopters
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    http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/

    the Orwellian-named Enduring Constitutional Government (ECG), which is defnined as meaning "a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers".

    Get that? "Proper" respect for the separation of powers. Under whose definition? Well, that would be The Preznit himself, and we've seen the respect he shows for the separation of powers. And what's "cooperative" mean? If they don't want to cooperate, is it off to the stadium to prepare for a trip to Gitmo?

    The directive would kick in basically any time Baby Doc feels it is necessary; all he has to do is declare a "Catastrophic Emergency" -- which by definition in the directive itself means "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions."

    Now how bleeping vague is that? A hurricane in Mexico? An ice storm in Canada? Pakistan dropping the big one into the men's room at the Taj Mahal? Even a precipitous drop in the value of the dollar against the Euro.

    Any and all of these can be interpreted within the broad confines of this directive.

    Note that it doesn't have to be on American soil. Anywhere on the planet (and probably off of it) is fair game for this far-reaching directive.

    This goes way beyond the end-run around habeas corpus codified in the so-called Patriot Act.

    This is nothing less than a blueprint for instituting martial law in the United State -- with Der Monkey Fuehrer himself at the top. Even Tricky Dick Nixon didn't go this far with his infamous Houston Plan, which provided for, among other things, extra-legal wiretaps, agents provocateur, and the rounding up of potential "subversives".
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    Calm down man.

    While this is an alarming development, just write to your congressman to get a good Judicial Review of it, and voila! It can be declared unconstitutional and struck down.

    Now that I have said it, I plan to do so.
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    Calm down man.

    While this is an alarming development, just write to your congressman to get a good Judicial Review of it, and voila! It can be declared unconstitutional and struck down.
    Well going by Zaknafien 's post s he may well have something to worry about here
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    I'm old enough to remember how rumors about abolishing the Constitution have swirled around every President since I was a kid. Except Bush Senior. For whatever reason, I never read or heard that he was going to become a dictator. But Reagan, yep, Clinton, yep. Somehow it never happens.

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    The President doesn't hold as much power as one might think he does, even if the President did 'try' to dissolve congress, theres a sure bet that either Congress would ignore it, or the Military would step in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I'm old enough to remember how rumors about abolishing the Constitution have swirled around every President since I was a kid. Except Bush Senior. For whatever reason, I never read or heard that he was going to become a dictator. But Reagan, yep, Clinton, yep. Somehow it never happens.
    Oh stop it with this voice of reason stuff. Next you'll be suggesting that if Bush wanted to go dictator on us he'd have had this thing promulgated in 11/2001 when nobody would have yelped instead of leaving it until year six when it would mostly empower his (probably democrat) successor.

    It can ONLY be reasonably explained as follows: Cheney will order Bush to use this EO to set aside Congress, declare emergency and rule by fiat until Haliburton assures them that they have a stranglehold on economic freedom in the Mid-East.

    To the barricades! Anarchy now, let's get organized!!!!
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