Bush Makes Power Grab

**Lemur** · 05-25-2007, 04:30

I'm old enough to remember how rumors about abolishing the Constitution have swirled around every President since I was a kid. Except Bush Senior. For whatever reason, I never read or heard that he was going to become a dictator. But Reagan, yep, Clinton, yep. Somehow it never happens.

**Samurai Waki** · 05-25-2007, 05:08

The President doesn't hold as much power as one might think he does, even if the President did 'try' to dissolve congress, theres a sure bet that either Congress would ignore it, or the Military would step in.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 05-25-2007, 05:15

Originally Posted by Lemur

I'm old enough to remember how rumors about abolishing the Constitution have swirled around every President since I was a kid. Except Bush Senior. For whatever reason, I never read or heard that he was going to become a dictator. But Reagan, yep, Clinton, yep. Somehow it never happens.

Oh stop it with this voice of reason stuff. Next you'll be suggesting that if Bush wanted to go dictator on us he'd have had this thing promulgated in 11/2001 when nobody would have yelped instead of leaving it until year six when it would mostly empower his (probably democrat) successor.

It can ONLY be reasonably explained as follows: Cheney will order Bush to use this EO to set aside Congress, declare emergency and rule by fiat until Haliburton assures them that they have a stranglehold on economic freedom in the Mid-East.

To the barricades! Anarchy now, let's get organized!!!!

**lars573** · 05-25-2007, 05:23

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

To the barricades!

Did someone say Barricade!

**IrishArmenian** · 05-25-2007, 07:41

Breaking news: President Bush declares a state of "Catastrophic Emergencey" that will remain indefinite. He has nullified all upcoming elections and will not vacate the office until "The Decider has nothing more to decide" or "...Nascar becomes the national sport of the US and we win a gold medal for petrol-chugging in the Olympics."

**Rodion Romanovich** · 05-26-2007, 11:09

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Oh stop it with this voice of reason stuff. Next you'll be suggesting that if Bush wanted to go dictator on us he'd have had this thing promulgated in 11/2001 when nobody would have yelped instead of leaving it until year six when it would mostly empower his (probably democrat) successor.

On the contrary, if you declare martial law and dictatorship powers in a single step you would immediately be overthrown. Historical dictators didn't just use a single event to claim dictatorship power, but take small steps at the time. All Bush needs if this law is passed, is a single more terrorist attack, or a war with Iran before the next election, then he is de jure and de facto dictator. Considering the simultaneous efforts to make the Iran issue heat up to war, I don't think it'll be hard for him to find such an event.

**Zaknafien** · 05-26-2007, 13:53

Thanks KC. I thought maybe my older days Republican imperialist views and military record would give me some credibility ! LOL... Anyways, what I see now is that most Americans are too concerned with imbicilic things like American Idol and Paris Hilton to be worried about real-world events and the state of our Republic. Its almost as if its a conscious effort to deaden the perceptions of a self-conscious American polity.

Bush is insane, and all reality a war criminal right up there with Andrew Jackson probably. But I don't blame Bush, I think he's merely a pawn, easily influenced, and honestly believes he's doing the right thing. Its the real power brokers like Cheney who are pressuring the POTUS to do these things.

I suggest anyone who hasnt seen "Why We Fight" and "Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers" do so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xYeuzG24mo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnX5meWTPQ

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 05-26-2007, 14:04

hanks KC. I thought maybe my older days Republican

Pssst. Relatively speaking you dont have any older days

Now n my older days a a screaming hippie liberal

**Odin** · 05-26-2007, 18:45

Well lots of grand scheme's, plots all we need is the hero on the white horse to ride in and save the day. Maybe next time the thread would be better represented "one ring to rule them all"

But dont let the facts cloud the romance, I mean I get it, "Bush uses executive power granted under the constitution to employ a new law granted by congress" dosent make for a sexy title, or the opportunity to yet again go over the same redundant argument bush is crazy, hes the devil, what have you.

Now that the forces of good are in power, those wonderfully non corrupt, non crazy, non insane democrats I have no doubt the law that thier bodies passed that allowed him this right will be repealed instantly.

Oh wait, Im sorry there busy giving him more money to empower his evil endevors.

Makes for a good read though, because its all bush, all the time.

One ring to rule them all...

**Zaknafien** · 05-26-2007, 18:54

democrats for the most part are just as decieved (or unwittingly evil) as bush and cronies are. Its well past time for revolution in the united states, but our people are asleep. sleeping giant, indeed. our own declaration of independence says it is our national responsibility to alter or abolish the government if necessary.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” and all that Founding Fathers speak, you know.