Does the War on Iraq kill more terrorists than it creates?

**Navaros** · 05-25-2007, 13:08

I've been listening to a lot of expert commentary lately and the consensus is usually that the War on Iraq is a gift to Osama Bin Laden so good that he never could have dreamed of getting such a great gift. The War on Iraq is exactly what Bin Laden wanted and even better than what he thought he could get. They say that the War on Iraq enrages otherwise peaceful Muslims to become terrorists and boost the number of terrorists fighting against the occupation and puppet government forces in Iraq and also creates terrorists worldwide out of people that would not otherwise be terrorists.

What do you think?

**Fragony** · 05-25-2007, 13:20

If that is so it is also a gift to those fighting them, they simply cannot go somewhere else without looking rediculous. Can't fight them like this at home. I'd say that we are both fighting a pretty pointless war, we can't win and they can't win, Bin Laden is probably as welcome as the inquisisition.

ps, doubt that Bin Laden is the invisible hand under iraq's skirt, it's just chaos.

**Navaros** · 05-25-2007, 13:27

The point is that Bin Laden wanted to draw the US into a never-ending war with Muslims and he has succeeded in doing that, even though he expected it to be in Afghanistan, and not receive the gift of the War on Iraq.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2007, 13:34

Nah he failed, 9/11 was supposed to be a starting sign, and he didn't get the response he wanted. Maybe he should have hired the mcDonalds pr-team instead .People are killed by these nutjobs every day there, not the best way to gain popular support. The real battlefield is Europe.

**Zaknafien** · 05-25-2007, 13:36

Of course it creates more than it kills.

If half your family is dead and half is starving, and someone offers you money to shoot a couple of mortars at what you see as godless pork-eating barbarian invaders, youre surely going to do it. Low risk, religious benefit, and the hard facts of getting cash to feed your family. Even if you were a dentist before the war, now youre a so-called "terrorist". I'd do it to, and so would you.

Wake up, America.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2007, 13:49

Originally Posted by Zaknafien

Wake up, America.

Isn't america that's killing them, and besides, if America wants to kill as many muslims as we euro's did they have a long way to go. In the fifties Holland killed over a 100.000 people in indonesia (some say much more), France has been pretty nasty in Algeria, England in Egypt, so why didn't it take place here? Simply because America is the big fish and attacking it has the greatest psychological impact. It were the muslims in europe that were supposed to be rallied I think, no shortage in human recource after all, an attack on europe that took place in the states if you will.

**Zaknafien** · 05-25-2007, 13:54

Originally Posted by Fragony

Isn't america that's killing them.

Are you smoking crack?

Maybe that came out wrong, but are you saying Americans are not killing Iraqis? With at least 74,000 dead as a result of the war, I'd certainly say we are..

**Strike For The South** · 05-25-2007, 13:57

The way I see it is this. Bin Laden is never going to make headway with our muslims or minorites ever ever ever. So we can either keep fighting or we can be civil and come to the table no matter how much some of yall want admit it we will eventually come to the table. It may be a year 5 years or 10 years down the road. Peace is inventable and the sad part is it will just be back to the status quo. I'd be more scared if I was a European apathy and a low birth rate are never good.