The way I see it is this. Bin Laden is never going to make headway with our muslims or minorites ever ever ever. So we can either keep fighting or we can be civil and come to the table no matter how much some of yall want admit it we will eventually come to the table. It may be a year 5 years or 10 years down the road. Peace is inventable and the sad part is it will just be back to the status quo. I'd be more scared if I was a European apathy and a low birth rate are never good.