Does the War on Iraq kill more terrorists than it creates?

**Zaknafien** · 05-25-2007, 14:03

Oh, I've lived through a couple not just heard about them. Are they not a direct result of our aggression into Iraq? You really think "bin-laden" would be blowing up his own people if we werent there? We've killed thousands of civilians ourselves, you know.. smart-weapons aren't. Young soldiers shoot at anything when they fear for their lives. It sucks.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2007, 14:11

Originally Posted by Zaknafien

Oh, I've lived through a couple not just heard about them. Are they not a direct result of our aggression into Iraq? You really think "bin-laden" would be blowing up his own people if we werent there? We've killed thousands of civilians ourselves, you know.. smart-weapons aren't. Young soldiers shoot at anything when they fear for their lives. It sucks.

These guys understand us a lot better then we do them, we have the guns but not the stomach for violence. Americans are addicted to succes, 5 years ago you were amost all behind it and now the love is gone, that worked for the terrorists at least. Terrorist bombings aren't exactly a new thing that promptly appeared when you opened a starbucks in bagdad.

**Zaknafien** · 05-25-2007, 14:16

There are reasons that they hate us, you know. 1, the majority of resistance in Iraq is conducted by Iraqi freedom-fighters. 2, the relatively small percentage of foreign jihadis in the region hate us for any number of causes that are a direct result of our foreign policy and exploitation of the world's poor and indifference to their religous wishes in the 80s and 90s.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2007, 14:22

Yeah they have a reason to hate us, it's called the political islam. Deeply sorry for them if we can't meet their religious demands but I prefer my head attached to my neck if you don't mind.

**Zaknafien** · 05-25-2007, 14:26

Its an ignorant attitude like that that will keep this war going in perpetuity. You need to learn about your enemies and why they are at odds with us, so we can work out a real, long-term solution to the issues or else we are no longer a great nation. "They" have no problem with you living your life the way you want. "They" just don't like us offending their great sense of religion by throwing ourselves in their faces every day and oppressing them at every turn. If you ever get a chance to travel to the Middle East, especially a rural country of the ME, you will see how much religion plays a part in these peoples lives and how it dictates their thoughts.

Now, certainly, I would agree that all religion is idiocy and has been the cause of most if not all suffering in human history, but these people arent going to become enlightened atheists anytime soon.

**Fragony** · 05-25-2007, 14:31

Easy now, the broad brush is my tool, take a stroll in a multicultural european neightbourhood, bring your girlfriend and see how much they respect your way of life. I expect around 10 educated guesses about her profession within 5 minutes. Is it so hard to imagine that the USA isn't necesarily the only faction in the world with a emperialist agenda?

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 05-25-2007, 14:44

There are reasons that they hate us, you know. 1, the majority of resistance in Iraq is conducted by Iraqi freedom-fighters

Thats one of the biggest loads of doo doo ive ever seen posted here. Freedom fighter? Who do they want freedom from?

Are you smoking crack? Maybe that came out wrong, but are you saying Americans are not killing Iraqis? With at least 74,000 dead as a result of the war, I'd certainly say we are..

You better check your stash.

You think we killed all these people? Your precious freedom fighters are in no way responsible? Who are the real bad guys here? Who do you side with anyway? Would you like the insurgents to win?