Big pig

[Tribesman]

A very big pig indeedhttp://www.breitbart.com/article.php...=1&image=large
these are the sort of idiots that give hunters a bad name .

[InsaneApache]

Humhum..

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=273



I've always wanted to do that.

[HoreTore]

Who goes hunting with a pistol?

[Ja'chyra]

What kind of idiot sees something like this and thinks "I got to kill it"

Makes you ashamed to be human

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Jamison, who killed his first deer at age 5, was hunting with father Mike Stone and two guides in east Alabama on May 3 when he bagged Hogzilla II. He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50- caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot.

PATHETIC!

This makes me angry. You don't shoot at animals with a pistol and you don't "pump 'em full of lead" you wait, you stalk and if you don't think you can kill him or at least dissable him you don't shoot. That's not hunting, hunting requires skill.

[Fragony]

On the other hand, it seems like a very very dangerous creature to me.

[Zaknafien]

The last Hogzilla was a hoax in some regard, it wasnt near as big as the picture made it look. I remember seeing a show on National Geographic about it a year or so ago... it seems though that the escaped boars get this big by feeding on super-protien food intended for catfish the farmers use. its really very fascinating how quickly a domesticated pig can go wild, and after a generation or two turn into a monster like this.

here's the last one:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Nat...?oneclick=true

[CrossLOPER]

I say it's shooped.

[Devastatin Dave]

When you go HUNTING, you KILL what you hunt. You guys need to go ...

[BigTex]

Who goes hunting with a pistol?

Just about any hunter with half a brain goes boar hunting with at least a .38 back up. Now going and hunting a 1,000lb boar with just a pistol is stupid.

Fail to see how this gives hunters a bad name... Generally the point of hunting is to kill, and if you've managed to kill such a large wild boar without being mamed or injurred yourself, I'd call that skill.

What kind of idiot sees something like this and thinks "I got to kill it"

Makes you ashamed to be human

It's a 1,000 lb wild boar, I hope that would go through most peoples minds. They are very dangerous, expecially when their so large.

[Devastatin Dave]

Summer's Eve...

[Rodion Romanovich]

Hunting with a revolver? I personally prefer spear and painted face

[Crazed Rabbit]

So, hunting small animals is fine, but big animals is terrible, from what I'm gathering.

You know they're going to get 500-700 pounds of sausage from the pig?

CR

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Why do we have duplicate threads?

[Ja'chyra]

No, hunting for food is fine. Plugging away at an animal with a weapon obviously inadequate, or was it just lack of skill, to kill it isn't.

Not to mention the fact of an 11 year old with a 0.50 gun.

[BigTex]

No, hunting for food is fine. Plugging away at an animal with a weapon obviously inadequate, or was it just lack of skill, to kill it isn't.

Nothing short of a high powered rifle would have been adequate. Least the .50 has massive stoping power. Most deer rifles would have taken many shots to bring down a 1,000lb boar. Show's great skill that he was able to both kill and chase it till it went down for 3 hours.

Not to mention the fact of an 11 year old with a 0.50 gun.

Fail to see anything wrong with this. The kid was obviously tuaght how to use it, what not to do with it. Considering he bagged a 1,000 boar that would have more then likely killed him had he not had it I'd say it's quite a good thing he had the .50 cal. Not to mention there were 3 other adults with him. Would you have prefered the kid carry just a long knife instead? I'm sure that will stop a 1,000 boar from charging.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Why do we have duplicate threads?

I considered locking this one and directing posters to the News of the Weird, but it developed quite quickly into a discussion on the merits of hunting rather than provoking more dreadful puns.

The points being made seem to deserve their own thread. Pearls before swine, if you will.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I fail to see how chasing a manic and maimed boar through the undergrowth takes skill. It's going to leave a massive trail a City Banker could follow. As to the appropriate weapon, you need something accurate enough to hit it in the head with and with enough power to punch through the skull. I would have thought a .308 with ultra-sonic cartridges would do the job.

I really don't know what these people think they were doing running after a boar in the first place. There are four smart ways I know to kill one. Flush to guns with dogs; corner with dogs, and kill with winged spear; ride down on horseback with lance and dogs; or sit in a hide, wait until one pops his head up and then shoot with an accurate, and scoped, rifle.

Three of those are currently illegal in the UK.

Why does it give hunters a bad name? Mainly because hunting is supposed to be a test of skill between you and the quarry. It sounds like this boar was already going to die, the boy had shot it eight times before running it down. It's liver and kidneys were probably shot, it's lungs full of blood.

It disgusts me. If you aren't sure of your kill you don't shoot. The meat will also be near useless, apart from the internal bleeding and a possibly ruptured stomach the muscle will be all tough from the adrenalin and the three hours anerobic resperation.

[HoreTore]

Generally the point of hunting is to kill, and if you've managed to kill such a large wild boar without being mamed or injurred yourself, I'd call that skill.

The point of hunting is to kill with the first shot, so that the animal dies instantly and without pain.

I thought every hunter knew that if you're not going to kill with first shot, you don't shoot.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Is it possible to kill such a beast as that with one shot?

CR

[Papewaio]

Why in none of the pictures do you see the hunters beside the boar... they are all in the background. None of them are standing by it or one foot on it (classic stereotype hunter pose) or while it is swinging from the tractor beside it with hand on it (classic stereotype game fisherman pose)...

I assume it is big, but if it is that big why not scale it true... and I'm sure something that big that was brought into a town would have a local reporter photographing it...

Anyhow the boars in NZ (which are tiny in comparison) often get hunted by hunters using dogs and a knife. Sometimes they use a rife or bow too.

[KukriKhan]

More pictures (and some pretty nasty email snippets) at the kid's dad's website, including better-scaled pix & photos of the entire party. Also details of the S&W .50 cal revolver used (retail $1,500).

[Del Arroyo]

Wolves don't kill a deer before they eat it, they rip it apart as they go.

Even a housecat will play with a half-dead mouse.

[Hosakawa Tito]

these are the sort of idiots that give hunters a bad name

Care to elaborate on why you think he's an idiot?

I'm curious to know how many who have commented have actually hunted or even fired such a large handgun.
A .50 cal. handgun is massive, the largest production handgun made. I've never fired one, but I have fired a .44 magnum and it kicks like a mule. Big game guides use them as an emergency backup gun when hunting in Grizzly Bear country, so I believe the .50 cal would be quite adequate for a wild boar.
Unless one is very close, head shots are not recommended simply because it's a smaller target than the heart/lung area of the chest. The caliber is not as important as shot placement. Most big game animals are extremely tenacious. Even when mortally wounded they can run for hundreds of yards before going down unless you hit the spine or head.

The point of hunting is to kill with the first shot, so that the animal dies instantly and without pain.

I thought every hunter knew that if you're not going to kill with first shot, you don't shoot.

Yes, in a perfect world that is the ideal. However, even the best shots can miss the "bullseye" and wound an animal. This was an 11 year old boy, probably the first time he ever fired a gun at a big game animal, and this just wasn't any ordinary boar; this one was massive. Anyone familiar with the term Buck Fever-*nervous excitement of an inexperienced hunter*. Anyone who has ever hunted should be quite familiar with the condition.

It disgusts me. If you aren't sure of your kill you don't shoot. The meat will also be near useless, apart from the internal bleeding and a possibly ruptured stomach the muscle will be all tough from the adrenalin and the three hours anerobic resperation.

On the contrary, kudos to this group for tenaciously tracking this wounded animal till they bagged it, instead of letting it go to waste. Proper and prompt field dressing would salvage most of the meat. Wild boar is naturally somewhat tough and gamy (they have to work for their food) when compared to farm raised pork. Proper preparation, aging and smoking, grinding into sausage make them quite palatable.

The wild boar in that area of the country are breeding with escaped domestic hogs and are their population is exploding like rabbits. They have no natural predators to keep them in check, except hunting by humans. They are causing serious damage to area farmers crops and fields. They use their snouts to roto-till the crop fields and can ruin a farmer's lively-hood almost overnight. They mainly feed at night and are very intelligent.

[Gregoshi]

I agree with Pape - the scaling in the pictures doesn't seem right. In the link to the monsterpig website provided by Kukri, compare the side shot with Jason (5' 5") standing behind it with the shot from the front and the hunting party kneeling behind it. They just don't match up. I'm chalking this kill up to Photoshop, at least until something a little more reliable turns up.

BTW, I checked Snopes.com and found this true story of a 1100 pound boar killed in Florida: Big Hog The size of the boar in the pictures from Snopes matches more closely with the kneeling picture I mention above from monsterpig.com. Snopes also mention "Hogzilla" and at the bottom of the article adds a blurb about Jason's boar, labling its authenticity as unconfirmed at the present: Hogzilla

[Strike For The South]

That head needs to be mounted. Pretty nifty I must say

[Yun Dog]

3 hrs and 8 shots later = good kill - NO FAIL

sorry I grew up on a farm and thats a fail in my book

hunting with a pistol = fail

I dont care how a good a shot he is, you telling me he was standing 'how close' for his first shot

an animal suffering in aggony for 3 hrs - how would you like it

or how would you feel if some psyco had shot your dog then taken 3 HOURS to finish it

but please show us all what lengths you can goto to justify your own sadistic cruelty

[Devastatin Dave]

Funny how many commenting on this "cruel" act are the same folks that don't even bat an eye when a baby is ripped out from the womb of its mother and call it "choice".. Just an observation. Masengale is 1/2 off at Walmart this weekend BTW.

[Hepcat]

Maybe I'm missing something but to me it seems strange that an 11 year old should be wielding a pistol. Sure, it wasn't anywhere populated but to me it seems odd.

[BigTex]

The point of hunting is to kill with the first shot, so that the animal dies instantly and without pain.

I thought every hunter knew that if you're not going to kill with first shot, you don't shoot.

Generally the point of hunting is to bring home food. In which case they massively suceeded.

There's very little chance of actually killing that massive boar on the first shot unless you came prepared to bag a rhino or a elephant. I highly doubt any of them thought they were going to run across this monster when they brought the guns that they did. A .50 cal is more then enough to down a boar, and most other game.

Anything short of a supersonic .30 + would not have killed on the first shot. Anything large enough to have killed it on the first shot would be unrealistic to go hunting with as you wouldnt be left with meat on a normal boar.