Marian reforms...

**bovi** · 05-28-2007, 18:28

Perhaps you've misunderstood the calendar. 199 BC is not after 172 BC...

**Ludens** · 05-28-2007, 19:19

IIRC the reformater trait is not time-dependent: it merely indicates that a characters has the traits required to trigger the Marian reform. However, the non-character-trait conciditions still need to be met before the reforms occur.

**Sakkura** · 05-28-2007, 22:16

If that general stays alive until 172 BC and you fulfill the other requirements, you will get the Marian reforms (as far as I understand the system).

Think of the reformator trait as an "I want to be Gaius Marius when it's 172 BC" trait.

**Mister V** · 05-29-2007, 08:15

Oohh, so its is as I've suspected. But it's kinda funny. I mean, "yeah, we've got all the prequisites for a reform...let's just wait for no reason another quarter of a century"

j/k, I understand why it's there.

**Ignopotens** · 05-30-2007, 14:59

jesus, the Getai really expanded in that game

**LorDBulA** · 05-30-2007, 16:19

Interesting "Roman" army You have there.

**neoiq5719** · 05-30-2007, 17:13

Originally Posted by Mister V

Oohh, so its is as I've suspected. But it's kinda funny. I mean, "yeah, we've got all the prequisites for a reform...let's just wait for no reason another quarter of a century"

j/k, I understand why it's there.

Can u tell me one thing? Is that guy a pleb?

**Mister V** · 05-31-2007, 16:13

He's not a pleb, Patricivs, Senatore, all that.

Yeah, uh, "roman" army

It's just me using the mercs in the constant meatgrinder against the Seleucid (they're doing the same, so hey).

The Getai got eaten by the Germans by now. In the north, there's nothing but a big "German Empire" as I like to call it, now battling the Hayasdan and Baktria for some barbarian lands.

So, right, year 172 BC just came - nothing. I mean, really nothing (got all requirements fulfilled of course). I guess it comes at random after 172 BC then?

EDIT: Nevermind! I got them. Seems it's summer 172, to be precise, not spring.

And I can at last do something useful and report a bug: Vigiles seem to be trainable with Marian reforms.
Also, there's the problem of not all buildings appearing on the city menu, simply because there's no space I think. Like in huge cities with everything built plus, say, a uique building, I can't see one or two buildings that I built last.

**neoiq5719** · 05-31-2007, 17:25

Originally Posted by Mister V

He's not a pleb, Patricivs, Senatore, all that.

Yeah, uh, "roman" army

It's just me using the mercs in the constant meatgrinder against the Seleucid (they're doing the same, so hey).

The Getai got eaten by the Germans by now. In the north, there's nothing but a big "German Empire" as I like to call it, now battling the Hayasdan and Baktria for some barbarian lands.

So, right, year 172 BC just came - nothing. I mean, really nothing (got all requirements fulfilled of course). I guess it comes at random after 172 BC then?

EDIT: Nevermind! I got them. Seems it's summer 172, to be precise, not spring.

And I can at last do something useful and report a bug: Vigiles seem to be trainable with Marian reforms.
Also, there's the problem of not all buildings appearing on the city menu, simply because there's no space I think. Like in huge cities with everything built plus, say, a uique building, I can't see one or two buildings that I built last.

What do u mean he´s not pleb, patricivs... he has to be one of those. I just wanna know if the guy that makes popularis is always a pleb. check it out.
Have u scrolled down to see the rest of what u have in your city?