Question about EDU

[Suraknar]

Thank you very much Aradan.

This does explain much here, and answer most questions.

Now the question becomes, is the bonus of "spear" determined by "spear_bonus"? Or does "spear_bonus" adds itself to whatever default bonus the "spear" attribute has?

It would semm (havent tested this), that according to the discussions, the "spear_bonus_x" used to be hidden prior to 1.3, and that it came out after it. If we follow this logic then that would mean that the "spear" attribute by itself does not give any bonus whatsoever. Would this be correct?

From what you have said, maybe "short_pike" was intended for Roman units, in order to simulate the close formation of an advancing unit of spear wielding romans yet not necessarilly a Greek base phalanx.

Alternativelly this may have also been an attempt to make a difference between Classical Greek Dori Phalanx and Alexandrian style Sarissa Phalanx

I am somewhat happy of this new find to be honest here, I will used it for all units in game that do not have pikes, and see how a campaign will go like that.

And since...Classical Greek phalanxes were used in Infantry vs Infantry engagements, it does not make sense that they receive a negative bonus against infantry.

[Suraknar]

oki have been doing some more tests here...

really need to understand how "spear_bonus" is aplied and vs what, is the bonus vs infantry or cavalry or both?

"short_pike" seems to do wonders visually and functionally against cavalry.

But against infantry its rather poor, I need to do more tests there.

any ideas anyone?