Limitations on use of diplomats, spies etc ??

[YAKOBU]

Hi everyone

I have recently purchased a new PC and am now playing M2TW after previously playing all other games in the series. I mainly play the game for the battles and building up cities but find keeping track of my diplomats, spies etc a bit of a nightmare.

What do you do to minimise this part of your game? In most of the games I have tended to limit myself to a maximum of 3 of each type in play at any one time.

[Warmaster Horus]

Uh, normally there's an "Agent" Tab in the middle of the screen (where "Agent" is written). Right-click that and you should see all your agents. You can then sort through them by type (diplomat, spy, assassin...), name, or place, IIRC.

[YAKOBU]

Thanks Warmaster Horus

I am already aware of that tab but still finding scrolling through them all takes too much time as well as keeping track of what each is up to.

[Warmaster Horus]

Of course, I forgot to say, I limit myself a bit.
I rarely use assassins, 1 or 2 max. If I go on a major conquest (1 grand army, for example) then I've got my best spy who makes sure the way is clear.
As for diplomats, well, I barely use them. 2 in the beginning and at the end, when I'm sure to win, then none.

[seireikhaan]

Lol, you should see some of the numbers I get for my agents in my mtw games. Recently as Hungary, I had roughly 200 agents roaming around the map. 99 cardinals(one for each province), a bunch of emmisaries, a lot of spies/assassins to keep my provinces from rebelling and keeping my generals safe(and of course, for moving along a few rebellions in my enemy's provinces), and one VERY good Grand Inquisitor.

[Andres]

Thanks Warmaster Horus

I am already aware of that tab but still finding scrolling through them all takes too much time as well as keeping track of what each is up to.

I feel your pain.

I always train new priests/imams in newly conquered regions from different religions instead of just moving the other guys from a nearly converted province up to the next one.

In my current Egyptian campaign I also had 4 (four!) spies standing next to each other, covering the same area. I guess it took 10 turns before I noticed it. Meanwhile I converted Trebizond castle into a city, to build a shisha bar so that I could finally train a spy, to scout the area ahead, while two turns walking away, I had those 4 lazy spies sitting next to each other, playing poker...

Not to mention those expensive assassins being utterly useless in the Constantinople region until I got a message 'worthy life ends'...

And did I mention Nasser the Holy Warrior who started to feel unappreciated because I left him standing near Zagreb for 12 years?

It happens to the best of us my friend, it happens to the best of us...

[Caerfanan]

Thanks Warmaster Horus

I am already aware of that tab but still finding scrolling through them all takes too much time as well as keeping track of what each is up to.

Try Rome Total War then... I play mostly MTW, when I switched for a while to RTW, the agents were effectively a nightmare. What suggests WarmasterHorus urges me to find a computer making M2TW playable!

[YAKOBU]

Hi Caerfanan

The scroll tab is pretty much the same in RTW as M2TW. Unfortunately there are more types of chacarters to move around in M2TW. Also I don't think the tab in M2TW tells you if the character has moved whereas I think in RTW you could see movement left by the characters name.

[Caerfanan]

Hi Caerfanan

The scroll tab is pretty much the same in RTW as M2TW. Unfortunately there are more types of chacarters to move around in M2TW. Also I don't think the tab in M2TW tells you if the character has moved whereas I think in RTW you could see movement left by the characters name.

Hi Yakobu!

Well, I'll carefully look what can be done with all those tabs, then. I don't recall any movements points displayed, but I have to confess that I haven't used that many agents, but way more pilum!