Animal Fight!

[Zaknafien]

Enough political blathering, I want your opinion on a debate of epic stature that has been plauging my office of intelligence weenies at work for nigh on two weeks now. That of, who would win in a fight between a fully grown adult male Silverback Gorilla and a fully grown adult male African Lion?

Both specimens are considered to be of prime size for their species, that is, about 450-500 lbs each. No need to bring up the absurdity of if they would fight or ever encounter one another in nature. This is a pitfight! (and for sake of arument lets say theyve been starved for a few days, and maybe prodded with some pointy sticks to get them riled up).

Who wins? Gorilla has the intelligence and reach advantage, but lion has the speed?

My thought is that the lion would attack from behind like they are wont to do, and while inflicting bleeding wounds on the gorilla, king kong would throw him off with one arm and break the lion's spine with blunt trauma.


Badass.


Pussycat.

[Fragony]

I say the gorilla.

[InsaneApache]

What's a picture of my ex-wife doing here?

[TB666]

Well if King Kong taught us anything it would be that a oversized gorilla can beat 3 T-rexes.
So I'm sure the gorilla could beat the lion.
Would be some fight tho.

[Marshal Murat]

Gorilla.
Gorillas have hands, which lend them to
throwing
strangling
punching

[English assassin]

who would win in a fight between a fully grown adult male Silverback Gorilla and a fully grown adult male African Lion

The giant squid pwns both of them

[Marshal Murat]

Until Captain Nemo gets a harpoon!

[InsaneApache]

The giant squid pwns both of them

In the ocean, true. However on dry land my 18 month old granddaughter could pwn the squid, whilst simultaneously eating a jam butty.

[Fragony]

How about gorilla's versus a very stupid woman. Gents, meet Bokito. Bokito is cult.



Bokito escaped and made quite a mess. Ok, but the fun is in the why. Despite numerous warnings, a very stupid woman still insisted she had a bond with Bokito, after all when she smiled he always smiled back

shame she survived, no Darwin award.

[Husar]

I don't know, I haven't really seen a gorilla fight so far.
Sure, he has hands, but does he know how to use them to kill?
And can they protect him if the lion just jumps onto him?
The lion however will have a hard time to get into the back of the gorilla, because a gorilla can turn faster than animals a lion usually hunts, he will probably have to come from the front.
If it was a tiger, I'd bet on the tiger, but male lions are not the best fighters I think, after all they let their women do most of the work.

[Fragony]

If it was a tiger, I'd bet on the tiger, but male lions are not the best fighters I think, after all they let their women do most of the work.

A position they have to fight for, tigers are solitary creatures and a lion would probably tear of a stripe or two when taking on a tiger despite the tiger being bigger. If a male lion is alive, then he is good at what he does, which is kicking other lions derrieres. And these things are big.

[Kralizec]

I for one think the lion stands a chance.

I recall a documented story where two king tigers downed an Indian elephant. It was especially noteworthy because normally tigers are solitary hunters.

Also lions get laid more then gorrilas.

[doc_bean]

I'd say the lion, it's got bigger teeth.


Also I've heard a gorilla has a really small penis

[InsaneApache]

with a bone in it.. apparently

[TosaInu]

If the lion dares to attack, he'ld lose. If he doesn't attack, he'll lose too.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I recall a documented story where two king tigers downed an Indian elephant. It was especially noteworthy because normally tigers are solitary hunters.

I shouldn't think tanks would have a hard time downing an Indian Elephant.

[Zaknafien]

you know the overwhelming majority always says the gorilla wins but the lion camp has some diehard adherents..

[Kuni]

gorillas are not hunters. they only fight other gorillas, they aren't even preyed on. nobody wants to eat a gorilla, so they've little experience fighting other species.

lions are hunters, even if the lionesses usually do the hunting, they spend time alone, when they have to fend for themselves. lions get in non-hunting fights too, but not only with other lions, but scavengers and other threatened wildlife. and when a lion has a dark mane like in the picture, it means it hasn't lost a fight in a long while.


and if you're still not convinced, the lion and not the gorilla is the king of the jungle.

[Yun Dog]

the lion would slaughter the gorilla, if it didnt decide to run away which is most cats response to things they dont like

would be a great spectacle like this

[Marshal Murat]

You Mean This?

[Boyar Son]

Gorrilla all the way

[Hosakawa Tito]

The lion would eat monkey boy's lunch.

[Boyar Son]

that lion wont stand a chance, that gorrilla will smash his skull.

[KafirChobee]

Cats be very fast. Gots 'em big claws. Gots 'em big teeths.
Lion wins, claws down.
Cats also know when to run away - so that leopard thing is bs.


BTW, nothing messes with a tiger ('cept maybe a croc). Though as I understand it - they prefer attacking from behind. Is why villagers in remote regions wear masks on the back of their heads - so a tiger will be confused and not attack.

[ajaxfetish]

If it was a tiger, I'd bet on the tiger, but male lions are not the best fighters I think, after all they let their women do most of the work.

I'm right there with you. Tigers pwn all. But since there are no tigers involved, I'm putting my money on the silverback.

Ajax

[InsaneApache]

This thread reminds me of that old conundrum; Why don't polar bears eat penguins?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Because they can't get the wrappers off.

[Duke of Gloucester]

gorillas are not hunters. they only fight other gorillas, they aren't even preyed on.

Suggests the lion knows it won't win.

[TosaInu]

Suggests the lion knows it won't win.

Hehe.

They both need to have a reason to fight. The lion needs to be desperate starved, the gorilla may need a familymember to protect. Running away is not an option (pity for you lion).

Anything is possible, a mouse could be responsible for me refusing to reboot. The lion could have a meal, but I really doubt.

The leopard example isn't the best: leopards avoid lions for a reason. If the lion could get a jump on the gorillas back and a bite like the leo had in that animation, then it would look pretty grim for the ape (larger teeth, more mass than leo).

Hunters go for easy preys, and even fail there at times. The gorilla is not an easy prey (healthy, very strong, heavy, compact, berserk).

[Kralizec]

that lion wont stand a chance, that gorrilla will smash his skull.

Male lion skulls are pretty durable, having to headbutt other males to get their share of booty makes it necessary. Why do you think they have manes?

[Husar]

Well, it's right that male lions fight about who rules the pack/herd/whateveritscalled, but they don't do it often I think, when it comes to their prey, even hyenas can scare them away and, well, so do buffalos.

Concerning Tigers, they are the best cats for many reasons. They look spectacular, are NOT afraid of water, they even swim sometimes and well, Fragony himself posted this video of awesomeness here, it's the first one.

And the Leopard vs Gorilla comparison is pretty biased and cheap, there was also a video in the video thread where a bear runs away from a housecat.
I think it depends on the individuals and a bit of luck maybe. If the lion can manage to do what he usually does, cut off the oxygen supply of the gorilla somehow(biting into the throat or face), the gorilla may lose enough of his power to lose, if the gorilla can get a decent grip on the lion before he is hurt in a bad way, then he may be able to crush the lion somehow, but I don't think he can easily brake his bones as the leopard video shows, which looks a bit rediculous to me.