Ancillary: DREAD Knight !

[Shahed]

Hi All !

I got this ancillary in my Danish campaign a while back. It was a great campaign. I held the 3 main Scandinavian provinces for the duration of the game fighting much larger and reasonably challenging enemies. I got this ancillary quite early in game though. Got the Dread Knight for the first time in this campaign.

Has anyone seen this ancillary regularly ?





SALUTE !

[Alsn]

Ive gotten it a couple of times but i cant say if its just a random chance for any dread general or if it has some other kind of trigger :/ (or can you look that up in some file perhaps?)

[Kobal2fr]

IIRC it's triggered by generals who already have the Berserker trait, which is gained in battle fairly rarely (or at birth, especially for the Danes who have a bonus trigger for it)

[alpaca]

You get it when attacking with at max even odds and killing at least two thirds of the enemy army, and the battle has to be won under participation of your general.
Of course you mustn't have any chivalry traits, either

Here's the code for you kobal:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger knight_dread_vnv_trigger
    WhenToTest PostBattle
    Condition WasAttacker
          and IsGeneral
          and WonBattle
          and GeneralFoughtInCombat
          and BattleOdds < 1.2
          and PercentageEnemyKilled > 66
          and not Trait BattleChivalry > 0
          and not Trait StrategyChivalry > 0

    AcquireAncillary knight_dread chance  25

By the way, when I first got him I thought "WTF? Is this HoMM 3 or what?"

[Shahed]

Thanks for the code. LOL ! Yeah it is funny.

[Kobal2fr]

Hmm. I was wrong. How disconcerting.

Or at least it would be, if it didn't happen about 12 times a day :p.

And don't you knock HoMM 3, you filthy little munchkin ! It remains the greatest HoMM that ever was, and ever will be. So sayeth the wiseman Me.

(Now, me, I instantly thought "How cool ! I got the Black Knight ! None shall pass !", but that may be because I first got him after a bridge battle :} )

[Shahed]

HAHAHHAA !!!! Kobal you got a great sense of humor ! I've also noticed some Muslim ancillary portraits while browsing the image files, but these don't seem to be active. For example there are knights for Muslim characters, different from the Christian knights. There are also some Sufi looking portraits and a couple of women.

[Blood Claw]

I haven't gotten this very often but I do remember getting it at least once. It is a cool retinue add-on in my opinion, just makes the general sound tough.

[CMcMahon]

I would much rather be able to have a Dread Pirate, preferably with the ability to kill the Sicilians without actually ever doing battle with them.

[Martok]

I would much rather be able to have a Dread Pirate, preferably with the ability to kill the Sicilians without actually ever doing battle with them.

[cue The Princess Bride references]

But back to topic: Any idea exactly how the Berserker trait affects the chances of getting the Dread Knight? I don't quite understand how/why they would be linked.

[Kobal2fr]

It's like I said : I was wrong. Mistaken. Caught in flagrante delicto of talking straight out of my arse, or rather out of a hazy recollection of my work on the 1.0 traits.

I will now commit seppuku with a wooden spoon to redeem the honour of my clan.

[crpcarrot]

i got a general with a berserker ancilliary does that make any difference?

[Zarky]

Only difference is that more dreaded people in one bunch, the merrier ^^

[zaher]

He he, i like this ancilary too. And dont blame Kobal, cause 2/3 times i getting Dread Knight together with Berserker after 1 battle. Also, when i played Egypt i got Dread Knight as muslim.

Now i playing French. 6-charm princesses FTW !!! Marry them with your gens and you get Useful Wife, Admirable Wife and Fair Wife traits, Royal Ties trait. Not bad ! LoL. Go, French !

[alpaca]

I would much rather be able to have a Dread Pirate, preferably with the ability to kill the Sicilians without actually ever doing battle with them.

Aye scurrrvy dog! And he'll only appear near the Caribbean Isles! And we'll call him Captain Jack Sparrow

@Zaher: Best I got yet was a 8 Charm Danish princess. I seriously only made an alliance with them to get that woman into my family. And I sacrificed my previous faction heir for it (poor wretch was already married - well, can't be helped I guess)

[CMcMahon]

Aye scurrrvy dog! And he'll only appear near the Caribbean Isles! And we'll call him Captain Jack Sparrow

Dread Pirate Roberts, surely...

[hoom]

Inconcievable!

[ninjahboy]

aww i never seem to get any extravagant retinue members :(

[alpaca]

aww i never seem to get any extravagant retinue members :(

Not even a foreign fruitcake? "She"'s a fairly common ancillary.

[Shahed]

Lol

[Eng]

I had it...
but did any one have the black stallion ancillary

[Thurak]

If you build a spy or assassin in a settlement with a race track you should get the black stallion. Good news: it's transferable!

[Shahed]

Good tip !

[alpaca]

If you build a spy or assassin in a settlement with a race track you should get the black stallion. Good news: it's transferable!

So we can give it to other agents? Interesting

[crpcarrot]

oh bugger and i didnt even try to trnasfer it

[Thurak]

Oh... and I found this:

Trigger sitting_around_castle_with_stables_dread
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists >= knights_stables
and Attribute Chivalry < -4

AcquireAncillary black_stallion chance 4


A Black horse for a black sole


The next trigger also exists for spy and is the other 100% chance - trigger besides the racetrack:

Trigger assassininit12
WhenToTest AgentCreated

Condition AgentType = assassin
and SettlementBuildingExists >= stables

AcquireAncillary black_stallion chance 100


Suddenly building agents in a castle without the proper guild is not a totally wasted skill point anymore...


All transferable ancilliaries are:

academic_advisor
alchemist
apothecary
assassins_apprentice
bard
black_stallion
bodyguard
caravan_driver
translator
treasurer
trusty_steed
tutor
+ all the relics

[Kobal2fr]

Except that it's a sham : you can't train assassins in castles :} (but the triggers also exists for racetrack)

[Shahed]

Good tip ! Actually, you can train assassins in castles.
Forgot what building it was that trains them but I was doing it all the time from Oslo in a Danish campaign.

[crpcarrot]

what does that mean i've only ever seen my spies getting the stallion never an assasin nor a general

can the horse be transfered from a spy to a general?

now i remember what it was i wanted to test out last night lol i knew i was forgetting something

[Shahed]

Yeap, you can transfer the horse from your assassin or spy to your general (or anyone else).