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    Quote Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
    So if I drive drunk but don't hit anyone, that's cool?
    I'm not sure that's such a good example. You probably know lots of people who have driven drunk before, and odds are you have yourself-- it just never got plastered all over the media machine for people to gawk at.

    I've been in the passenger's seat a few times, and yeah, they didn't hit anyone, so I wasn't a dick about it. There have also been times when I have taken the keys away-- but, for example, "they need an act of congress to take my rank, now get in the g-damned car" can be kind of hard to argue with.

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    If his punishment serves as nothing more than a reminder to the next SoB that thinks of himself above those he would willingly endanger with a contagious disease than I say punish him under the law.
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    Even if none of the people contract TB from him, just being exposed is no picnic. You still have to undergo batteries of Xrays and take about a years worth of meds just to be on the safe side. That's probably what the people who were lucky enough to sit next to this jerk have to look forward to at the very least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Arroyo
    I've been in the passenger's seat a few times, and yeah, they didn't hit anyone, so I wasn't a dick about it.
    So yes, drunk driving is fine if you don't hit anyone. No one died this time, so no need to be a 'dick' about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    So yes, drunk driving is fine if you don't hit anyone. No one died this time, so no need to be a 'dick' about it.
    It is my understanding that the man was told he could not fly, because of the contageous stage of his TB. He flew anyway, knowing he was exposing hundreds to the possability of contracting it.

    TB was, a short time ago, contained and all but resolved. Thing is, we (world health authoritys) got complaisant and sloppy - just as they have been with measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio, etc. As the viruses get stronger - evolve, our medicines get weaker and the resolve to think them serious becomes weakened (since 1st world kids ain't dying of them - except the poor) - it is acceptable for some to make light of a "typhoid Mary" flying on a plane.

    Thing is, as already pointed out, the new strains of TB are killers. There is no cure. Not now, and some say not in the near future because they have evolved beyond our knowledge of them (or ability to ....).

    What would these same people say of a person that knows they have AIDs dating their son or daughter? Or, did their kids take the pledge? [oops]. It all then makes sense - that one can be high and mighty about a man possibly contaminating a few hundred or so commoners they don't know (you do know that the air on a plane is recirculated? Is how they so easily banned smoking from flights) and think this is some kind of "personal freedom". #Where as, these same fops accept the new rules allotted the NSA - oh well, lets not be political on a health issue. Simply wouldn't be "right".

    All the people on that flight have law suits against 'him' - in the U.S., atleast - for putting them in unwarrented harm without warning. I mean, had he step on the Plane and said, "I got uncurable TB", then the passengers had the choice of staying or leaving. He gave them no such choice.

    The "dick" needs to be prosecutes to the fullness of the law.

    TB, btw, can take up to a year (or more) to manisfest itself. It is a sneaky little thing. And, the latest strains do kill one. Nice. real nice guy, knowing what he was doing, and doing it anyway.

    BTW, the driving while drunk analogy? Lame at best.

    Why not use a child molester gets away with it, is it really mollestation?

    Makes as much sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KafirChobee
    TB, btw, can take up to a year (or more) to manisfest itself. It is a sneaky little thing. And, the latest strains do kill one. Nice. real nice guy, knowing what he was doing, and doing it anyway.
    I agree completely, was aiming for sarcasm with my response to Del.

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    Speaker said he felt as if the CDC had suddenly "abandoned him." He said he believed if he didn't get to the specialized clinic in Denver, he would die.
    Then why pray tell not go straight to the clinic to save ones life rather then detouring to Europe while 'dieing'.

    Seems like a grade-a selfish pig, as for the rest exposed to him I hope they sue him for all he has on the basis of emotional suffering. Seems the father-in-law should have his credentials reviewed if he can't even give sage advice to his son-in-law... or maybe he really really doesn't like him.
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    IMHO, each case is unique.

    I know that our society is slowly criminalizing any single tiny risk (when people die by the hundred someplaces else, btw), and that it has to be tampered (not sur about the word): I mean, if I were a doctor in certain places, I would refuse to take care of people, because I could get so many lawsuits... And I think that this is bad

    However, about this TB infected person flying over the seas uncaring, I won't say "well, no harm, no foul". This is madness. Of course being rejected because you're sick must be hard. Does it give you a reason to be irresponsible?

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    Terminally stupid.

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    sorry. Some don't get it.
    Last edited by KafirChobee; 06-02-2007 at 07:15.
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