Beta 8...A problem??

[barocca]

i have to agree with Puzz,

installing beta 8 to One copy of VI will not and can not have an impact on the other copies.
files do Not get installed outside the VI directory tree.

something else is causing the problems, a firewall or anti-spy-ware program blocking the port,
or even malware hijacking the port

You may not even know it is there, drive-by malware is becomming more and more common, i had a run in with some myself.
The nastiest stuff like to make use of XP's "superhidden" feature to tuck itself away in plain site...

[barocca]

FOR EXAMPLE
if you have seen a popup like this

then it is quite possible you have malware on your sytem



B.

[barocca]

if you see ads like that one open TASKMANAGER
and kill ALL instances of explorer immediately from taskmanager

anything you do, click the red-x, hit cancel, close from the taskbar,
anything, will start the install process.
kill ALL instances of explorer immediately from taskmanager

B.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

if you see ads like that one open TASKMANAGER
and kill ALL instances of explorer immediately from taskmanager

anything you do, click the red-x, hit cancel, close from the taskbar,
anything, will start the install process.
kill ALL instances of explorer immediately from taskmanager

B.

What you mean? Like the stuff under SYSTEM and that?


Well if so, to late for me since I didn't know what to end task out of extacly

[barocca]

if you see a popup like this one displayed below

hit the keys marked "ctrl" - "alt" and "delete" at the same time

that opens a program called taskmanager in a new window

there are five tabs,
applications, processes, performance, networking, users

hit/click the Applications tab

click on the Internet Explorer icons and for each one hit the end task button at the bottom off the window

if you do not understand any of this then go to majorgeeks.com and find their malware forum and follow their instructions.,
READ THE THREAD MARKED README before you post a thing in their forums.

B.

FOR EXAMPLE
if you have seen a popup like this

then it is quite possible you have malware on your sytem



B.

[barocca]

things that have caused me grief when trying to host MP online

(just listing everything that has ever blocked me from hosting)
(kinda like thinking out loud)

an anti-spyware package could be blocking the game from using ports

an anti-virus package could be blocking the game

i had a spare PC acting as firewall/router, i could find no way to port forward through it
(that was a software issue with the program i was using to emulate a router)

some routers need to be specifically configured to allow port forwarding
(some modern cable/adsl modems are also routers, usually they dont need
configuring when used as modems, but maybe they think they are a router)

one ISP i was with, their Proxy, i had to speficially name / address in internet explorer

another ISP Proxy i had to cut out of the "chain" as it simply would not allow the game to connect



there has to be a reason for your problem, if we can find it I will be very happy,
the more info we have on glitches like this, the better we can support people who want to play

cheers
B.

[Jochi Khan]

Thank you for 'thinking out loud' barocca.

I agree, the more things that people post that they have encountered or experienced, the more options people will have to help solve their problem/s.

It is frustrating but I will keep on trying until it is solved. The annoying thing is I have never had a problem with hosting any games in the past. All the Totalwar series.

Zone Alarm, AVG, Adaware and Spybot have always been running on my machines.

[Jochi Khan]

Today, a complete new fresh instal of MTW/VI/Patch2.01/Beta8.


Set ZoneAlarm-Medium Security (which allows hosting)

Windows Firewall Exceptions-Allow MTW/VI/Beta8

Router (BT Hub)-Game or Application Sharing-Port Forwarding 18322
-Firewall-Disabled

AVG-Disabled
I am now very close to minimum internet security..........

Logged on to Beta8..Hosted a game (correct era, japan, japanese. etc. etc.:o))..two players in the foyer assisting me could not see the game.
The three of us relogged a few times to rule out any problem there but still they couldn't see the game.

Just what else do I have to do to resolve this problem?????????????????
(this is an exclamation not a question :-))

SP custom battle plays great.

[R'as al Ghul]

Jochi,

I just believe that you know your diverse firewalls and how to let the game through them. Atm I've no idea what the problem could be. Can you host with a vanilla version of MTW-VI without traces of beta_8 anywhere else?

Apart from that, we had some similar problems on sunday. The games of those of us who usually host (meaning it has worked 100s of times before) were invisible. It wasn't just the beta_8 games but all games in the lobby. There's one guy who reported 6 games total when I was only able to see 2 of them and others couldn't see any. Relogging or switching back and forth between the "Internet games" screen and the lobby wasn't any help.
In the end it worked again but there was no indication on what the problem was.

R'as

[Puzz3D]

Set ZoneAlarm-Medium Security (which allows hosting)

Windows Firewall Exceptions-Allow MTW/VI/Beta8

Router (BT Hub)-Game or Application Sharing-Port Forwarding 18322
-Firewall-Disabled

AVG-Disabled

No need to disable AVG as it doesn't interfere with hosting.

My router, the D-Link DI-624, is also a DHCP server. The firewall disable (DMZ) only applies to one local ip address which is selectable. I set up the DHCP to always give my machine the local ip address 192.168.0.100, and then set the DMZ for that same address. The alternative to DMZ is to use port forwarding which is also ip address specific.

If you are running Peer Guardian, that will block hosting. You have to disable it for hosted games to be visible.

[Jochi Khan]

1. Please answer Orda's question if there is no problem.

2. Who discovered the LAN work around and why if there is no problem.

We enjoyed playing Samurai Wars (the 20Nov version) so,

if this cannot be resolved you have lost four potential players for this game.

[Tomisama]

1. Please answer Orda's question if there is no problem.

2. Who discovered the LAN work around and why if there is no problem.

We enjoyed playing Samurai Wars (the 20Nov version) so,

if this cannot be resolved you have lost four potential players for this game.

I first heard of the LAN work around years ago, and having nothing to do with Samurai Wars. I was only reminded of it recently when having a problem hosting a SW game, but it is not new.

I believe it is like the problem caused by playing a single player game and then trying to play multiplayer without rebooting, or loosing sync with the host's game when you do not have strictserver imployed. That is, it is a short comming of the game, and not having to do with anyones mod.