King's Banner 2.0

[JoeDreck]

King's Banner 2.0

Welcome to the King's Banner mod thread.

This is my mod for Medieval II: Total War. I hope you like it and give me feedback.

This mod adds over 130 new main banners, many new upgrade banners and over 300 new shield textures for Medieval 2.

Every one of the large factions have received new banners, please see full list below.
I've also created a system which will allow more banners for each faction than was available in vanilla.

I've tried to make all textures as historically accurate, as was possible. So if you see
something wrong or have any suggestions, tell me.


Examples:



Banners for the following factions:

England [12 banners, general banner]
France [12 banners, general and some upgrade banners]
HRE [12 banners, general and some upgrade banners]
Spain [12 banners, general and some upgrade banners]
Hungary [8 banners, 2 general and some upgrade banners]
Poland [8 banners, general banner]
Egypt [8 banners, general and some upgrade banners]
Byzantinum [8 banners, general banner and some upgrade banners]
Denmark [6 banners, general banner]
Portugal [6 banners, general and some upgrade banners]
Moors [4 banners, general banner]
Sicily [4 banners, general banner]
Russia [4 banners, general and some upgrade banners]
Venice [4 banners, general banner]
Selcuk Turks [4 banners, general banner]
Scotland [1 general banner]
Milan [1 banner for Musketeers]

Arabic rebels [5 and some upgrade banners]
Westeuropean rebels [5 and some upgrade banners]
Easteuropean rebels [5 and some upgrade banners]
Hospitaller [1 banner]
Templar [1 banner]
Teutonic order [1 banner]
Knigts of Santiago [1 banner]
Wales [1 banner]

European Knights


Leon y Castile

England

France

HRE

Poland

Portugal____________Denmark____________Byzantium

Arabian



Downloadlink for the King's Banner Mod
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1461

Bug fix: for east europen slav mercs, nubian warriors, chivalric knight rebels.
example: when you hire mercs in the region zagreb, the slav spearmen have white banners. this fix this problem. overwrite the file in kingsbanner/data
http://files.filefront.com//;7958486;;/


Thanks to:
Boicote for symbols for Russia, Spain and Denmark
GrandViz for the setup.exe and support
Salty for the Denmark color changes (Frankfurt rules)
WhiteWolf for some Byzantinum shields

[Whacker]

NICE! This one's a keeper! Going to tntegrate into my personal Frankenmod!

Edit - Link doesn't work for me!

[Agent Smith]

I guess I'm the first to say it, but VERY nice work. Those banners are very impressive. I have two questions:

1.) Do the units still retain the banner/unit distinctions? For instance, spear unit banners are square with a jagged edge, archer banners are triangular, cavalry are wide rectangular, etc.

2.) Can you show a screensot of the new Russian banners?

EDIT: DARN YOU WHACKER!!!!

[JoeDreck]

the link not work, cause i've made a mistake, but i hope that someone change it.

[Whacker]

JoeDreck, can you post a valid link to it in a new post? One of the mods can surely fix it easily.

Agent Smith, I exist only to thwart your first posts

[Agent Smith]

Agent Smith, I exist only to thwart your first posts

Oh yeah?

(Insert yo mama joke with thwart as an inuendo here)

[JoeDreck]

Download link:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-...anner.exe.html


NOW THE LINK WORKING

[Shahed]

AWESOME work man. Absolutely beautiful !

When is your next release ?
Do you intend to do banners for Turks, Timurids & Mongols ?

[JoeDreck]

i'm working on the selcuk turks banner, maybe the other two get new banner too.

[Kobal2fr]

*drool*.

Stunning work. Simply stunning.

[Shahed]

i'm working on the selcuk turks banner, maybe the other two get new banner too.

Great. If you need any sources of info (you probably know this) but the Broken Crescent mod forum is a good place. There's a lot of banners, shields etc there which you could get ideas from. The link is my signature, click it if you want to have a look there.

[Rhedd]

Very nice!

So I went to look at the actual textures, and found them to be ".texture" files. What utility do I need to convert those to/from actual usable graphic files?

[Shahed]

This should help:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ight=converter

[Rhedd]

This should help:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ight=converter

Danke!

Sorry for going off topic, but thanks for the help.

I really love the shields. Although I like the way they handled "team colors" in vanilla, I kind of missed that feeling of vibrant heraldic colors. Especially for France. The new shields make me happy.

[Shahed]

Bitte.

[JoeDreck]

Great. If you need any sources of info (you probably know this) but the Broken Crescent mod forum is a good place. There's a lot of banners, shields etc there which you could get ideas from. The link is my signature, click it if you want to have a look there.

thanks.

i'm ready with the shields for the arabic factions.
for the selcuk faction i found only one banner (the blue with eagle and crossbow) and thats was the reason,
why i didn't take them in the mod.

what i would need is a mesh expert, who change the meshes of the banner.
i've made the pole 35% smaller and it makes the banner 35% smaller too.
now i would like to make the banner mesh bigger, so that the pole is short and the banner is normal by 100%.

someone, who knows someone?

[Shahed]

Joe, yeap I do, try AlphaDelta on the BC mod forum, post in the public forum to get his attention.
I hope he will help you, but I can't say for sure.

Seljuk Turks


IIRC the red ones are royal standards for the Sultan's bodyguard and could also be used for Quapukulu (in game reference obviously).
Check this thread might be more there:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=88959

The Timurids



Hope that helps.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

You can find more for Timurids by studying Persian paintings. Bit complicated but if you really want to Chagatai_Khan at the BC mod forum might be able to give you some pointers. You could also help yourself by posting in history forums, e.g www.allempires.com. that one is good and you can find some info there. The BC mod has a lot of people who can help you. If you look through the threads on the factions you are interested in you will spot the persons who can give you info. To name a few: Ahiga, Qarama, Chagatai Khan, Boztorgai_Khan, jermagon, Randarkmaan, CelticPagan. I hope I spelt all those correctly. If you want my reference tell them Sinan told you to speak to them for information. I'm not sure what depth of information they have, but if they don't have it and have time and willingness, they can surely find it for you.

Thanks for all your hard and timeless efforts. It's great work.

[JoeDreck]

that are mine banners for selcuk. very boring, but histiric(ly)

https://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=selcukvw3.jpg


AlphaDelta, ok i contact him

[sapi]

Moved to the modding forums

[Shahed]

That's a good start Joe !

[JoeDreck]

thanks, i do what i can.

[Eng]

Looks cool but wouldn't it be a bit confusing???

[JoeDreck]

Looks cool but wouldn't it be a bit confusing???

what do you mean with confusing?

[Tambarskjelve]

Wow, this is great.
I actually had the banners turned off, but with this they are coming back.
Love the reduced size banners, and looking forward to shield-gazing.
Thanks.

[Tambarskjelve]

Ok, a bit confused here, how is it possible to incorporate this into another mod? Like Carl's problemfixer Pure, or LTC? Both create their own mod folders. But Copy pasting wont do it, it requires some config triggers?

[Kobal2fr]

Ok, a bit confused here, how is it possible to incorporate this into another mod? Like Carl's problemfixer Pure, or LTC? Both create their own mod folders. But Copy pasting wont do it, it requires some config triggers?

Nope, no config file required, the original mod shortcut is enough (it basically tells the game "use all the files you find in that folder instead of the packed ones", it doesn't list what files are in it)

And I've successfully copy/pasted King's Banner into LtC's dir except for the descr_export_unit.txt file and the /world folder, which both seemed to be pure vanilla to me, so unneeded and obviously would bork LtC anyway. No adverse effects, gorgeous banners.

[JoeDreck]

And I've successfully copy/pasted King's Banner into LtC's dir except for the descr_export_unit.txt file and the /world folder, which both seemed to be pure vanilla to me, so unneeded and obviously would bork LtC anyway. No adverse effects, gorgeous banners.

do you mean my export_descr_unit file?

that's one of my biggest problem with this mod. that's the reason why i have 1500 downloads in 2 weeks. the compability.

[Tambarskjelve]

I proceeded as Kobal2fr suggested, and got it to work perfectly with Carl's Problemfixer Pure.
Thanks both of you!

Beautiful work, JoeDreck, I like the smaller size of the banners, as well as the diversity and designs of shields.
For your compatibility issue, I guess the only thing keeping your shields and banners from the masses, is getting them incorporated into mods that fixes other aspects.

Thanks again.

[Kobal2fr]

And I've successfully copy/pasted King's Banner into LtC's dir except for the descr_export_unit.txt file and the /world folder, which both seemed to be pure vanilla to me, so unneeded and obviously would bork LtC anyway. No adverse effects, gorgeous banners.

do you mean my export_descr_unit file?

that's one of my biggest problem with this mod. that's the reason why i have 1500 downloads in 2 weeks. the compability.

Yes, I meant that it didn't look like you made any changes to it from 1.2, did you ?

Anyway, since Lusted's LtC changes a lot of stuff in that file, I didn't copy yours. Doesn't seem to cause any problem. Same goes for the data/world folder.

There's something that's been bugging me though : you changed the icons and faction shields and fixed some problems with them (such as the cav spearhead formation always looking like it's toggled on when it's not), and that's a good thing. But playing the game in 1600x1200, the new stuff appears fuzzy and less detailed, as if they've been through antialiasing x12. Would you happen to know why/how to fix them ?

[Kobal2fr]

Found something you'll love : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Blasons

It's in French, but it's fairly straightforward. There's lots of stuff to sort through, and most of the stuff you have already put in the mod, but I'll give you a hand. Here's the pages you'll probably be most interested in, i.e. stuff that's not already in :

First the royal lines :

Here, the royal family of Portugal

The Habsburgs, includes Hungarian royalty


Then the provinces and lower nobility :

for the Danes : royal arms of Denmark, Scandinavia, Finland and Sweden

For the Italian factions, I give you the Italian Principalities, including the Sicilian royal line

Here are those of the Christian kingdoms in the Levant. Dunno what you could make of them though. Crusader shields, maybe ? Then again, that red cross on white is classy and iconic.

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Also found this site : http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Accueil.htm

On the left menu, click on "Geographique" and you'll find a list of coat of arms for most European countries and royal families. In "Europe orientale" you'll find lots of stuff for Poland, Hungary and Russia, there's also like 20 pages of coat of arms from Genoan and Venetian Doges in "Peninsule Italienne".