Sweboz (Germans) slightly underpowered

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WHAT?! Come on, of course men who can lift 30 mailshirts and carry them, swimming from the Netherlands to Sweden is a universal... can't everyone do that?

Watchman, i appreciate your detailed elaboration of the advantages of a helm.... even if i don't agree with their actual effectiveness against a large degree of force

well of course i agree that helms were used by Germanic warriors, because there is no reason NOT to take advantage of something, but it wasn't a high priority compared to swords and mailshirts... my extreme opinion is to reinforce that it's not as useful as you guys keep trying to say they are... i'm sorry it's simply wrong to say that any helm of 270BC can save someone's life from a good sword to the head... where is the logic in that? come on... that's just silly... are we speaking of lame-ass swords or what? a good sword is a good sword and it's whole purpose is that it can go through mail even, nonetheless a dinky 270BC helm.... yes glancing blows would be deflected and a helm is better than nothing, of course, but helmets are as useful as bracers and leg armor, which is NOT very useful...

Handsome, your point was that "if they didn't protect, then nobody would wear them" and that is RIGHT... just because "civilized" men wore helmets that doesn't justify their use... and just because "barbarians" didn't wear them that doesn't mean they aren't effective, but if we use common sense and think about how much force is in a sword blow and the fact that the sword is sharp, i think it's safe to say that the helm might as well not be there... why would anybody use swords unless they worked? glancing blows don't even necessarily kill unarmored men- that's the definition of the term... by increasing the probability of survival through extra pieces of armor, a warrior does his job which is kill more by not dying and living to kill more, but that doesn't change the grim reality of certain death if you're head gets hit by a decent weapon (as in not a crappy arrow which 'glances'). Like in modern times, the helmet is almost ONLY useful at protection from missles...

the leather skullcap found on the Tollund Man, as Sarcasm loves to point out, and i love to hear mentioned, is a good example of how helms were used by Germanic tribes, but they certainly weren't considered important... it would be an extra... any Celtic helm in earlier times, and Roman helms in later times would have been used if found or acquired intact... so ACTUALLY that is a good argument for why mailshirts were actually developed and made locally by Germanics even if borrowed technology because otherwise there should be more helms and there isn't...

of course there are always exceptions to the rule, but that's why helms are portrayed the way they are with the Germanics..... Sarcasm and I agree actually that there should be more leather skullcaps, but i REALLY don't want to see another weird red cap... that makes me want to kill myself it's so ridiculous and the sad thing is that nobody wants it in the game and yet it's been in the build for over a year or more without anybody taking it out so i would prefer NOTHING as opposed to Attack of the Shriners