Eastern heavy cavalry

**KidFury** · 06-07-2007, 11:28

I think what I will do is channel my very best units from the various fronts especially my cretan archers to the eastern front. It is only 253 so I am not going to get Marius anytime soon I will have to do with battle-hardened Principes.

I was just so surprised that a cavalry could do this to not one but two units of hoplites.

**Omanes Alexandrapolites** · 06-07-2007, 16:14

Hi KidFury,
Don't worry! The Marius event can occur at anytime from 270BC right through to 14AD - it depends upon having a huge city, Imperial Palace, anywhere on the Italian peninsula and Scilly. Luckily, not on any dates! Hope this helps, cheers!

**Fwapper** · 06-07-2007, 16:17

When fighting easterners, always try to fight them in a city rather than in the open, and always bring along some merc hoplites :)

wait... that's exactly what you did...

**KidFury** · 06-07-2007, 19:11

Originally Posted by The Fwapper

When fighting easterners, always try to fight them in a city rather than in the open, and always bring along some merc hoplites :)

wait... that's exactly what you did...

Now I am trying to figure out if you mean I did the right thing and just had bad luck or if that I need to fight easterners in the open and that the last thing I want is hoplites...

**Stuperman** · 06-07-2007, 19:18

Hoplites+creatian archers work very well against the Chariots of the east. Probably just bad luck

**Severous** · 06-07-2007, 19:52

All heavy cavalry generals will take apart lone phalanx units. Serve up two phalanx units one after the other and dont be surprised if you loose both ...especially to an enemy king.

Now if both phalanx had been in the same spot...creating a dense mass of men and spears. That probobly would have stopped the general. That is if the enemy missiles had left enough men to hold the line.

**Laman** · 06-08-2007, 06:49

Try Eastern Mercenaries, they may be crap, but they are decent against cavalry and most importantly expendable. However this is only pre-Marius (and if you can't get enough Triarii), after Marius Auxilia fulfills that role much better.

**Fwapper** · 06-14-2007, 21:14

Originally Posted by KidFury

Now I am trying to figure out if you mean I did the right thing and just had bad luck or if that I need to fight easterners in the open and that the last thing I want is hoplites...

Oh definately bad luck. If you had fought them in the open (and the AI was deciding to be remotely intelligent for once) then they would just run around you, tiring out your men, and killing them, a lot. At least in a city battle they can't outflank you and shoot into your backs, and the only place they'll be retreating to is the central plaza, where you can do much massacring... :)