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    EB2 Baseless Conjecturer Member blacksnail's Avatar
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    Not a problem! It's really overwhelming when you first jump into the code.

    Two files to check for this are export_descr_buildings.txt and export_descr_character_traits.txt - do a search for colonia and see if anything comes up. I didn't get any matches in either, so there are no buildings which use the colonia as a requirement and no traits which build off of the colonia for any faction. This means it is completely safe to remove anything from (or add anything to) the faction requirement list.

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    TPC is working on the remaining Pahlava descriptions - we'll see what he thinks about the possibility for having them. Keep in mind Parthia has a ton of buildings that other cultures don't get. They are just about maxed out in all possible buildings (and they get a few more in the next build!).

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    Having played with Pahlava they DO get to build colonies, but it specifically says Hellenic Colonia (or whatnot). So I presume that they mean the peaceful (or not) relocation of Hellenic types in Pahlava dominated land. On a side note, I've noticed that cities I take that have the Land Grant (1st level of the Estate tree) would let me build Migration, though I hesitate to do so since I'm pretty certain that has to eb a placeholder or something until the Pahlava go completely nomad government at the start of the game (or at least that's what I'm thinking....).
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    Marzbân-î Jundîshâpûr Member The Persian Cataphract's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
    TPC is working on the remaining Pahlava descriptions - we'll see what he thinks about the possibility for having them. Keep in mind Parthia has a ton of buildings that other cultures don't get. They are just about maxed out in all possible buildings (and they get a few more in the next build!).
    This is correct, however to the contrary of many views, the Pahlavân were through especially their Bâzrangî (Clan of Persis before they were supplaunted by the house of Sâsân and subsequently the Andigâs clan) clients very proficient in trading through the sea where the Pahlavâ not only established embassies in the far East, but also deep down in coastal Africa, Dravidian India (Which became the Pallava) as well as coastal southern Arabia. Therefore the current Hellenistic colony building is merely a place-holder, however with a purpose; We do actually aim to get a colony'esque building.

    The two reasons why we rarely hear of Parthian exploits on the sea are quite obvious, foremostly that they fielded equestrian armies which are not compatible with sea warfare, thus subsequently we never ear of Parthian clashes on the sea. However, what bolsters this view of them being a mercantile colossus, is indicated by Parthian influence as far out as today's Malaysia. Some dubious authorities stretch this eve further by designating a Filipino island a direct product of Pahlavân influence... Which of course is pretty far-fetched since the gathered facts already make them quite extensive by influence only, with Bâzrangî colonies scattered across coastal Africa apparently down to Mozambique, Zanzibar and Madagascar, as well as Sindh, parts of Arabia, and southern India, out to trading connections in Malaysia.

    Drawing a few dots between these destinations will inevitably portray something completely astounding; An implied monopoly on the trading for some periods (Important mention is that diplomatic relations between Arsacids and Bazrangids is sketchy as best, the given explanation for their exploits in Africa seems rooted in a "displacement" but on the other hand in the Kârnâmag-î Ardashîr we see the Bâzrangî portrayed as Arsacid friendlies).

    So it is not only correct that the Pahlava will for instance have one of the most extensive building trees, but historically, their story is truly one of many spectra; How they from merely being nomads were to became the avatar of the Achaemenid legacy. It's really an exciting change, and there is far more in store for them than described here.
    Last edited by The Persian Cataphract; 06-10-2007 at 20:07.


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    Try and find a more appropriate image for the concept if you'd like them to have their own variant then TPC - it would make it look a lot more appropriate and as they are eastern faction it will still be good for them. I don't think Pontus will be getting this ability so we don't have to worry.

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