Multiplayer rules thread

[Pharnakes]

OK, as we are nearing 32 people I thought I'd start a thread for some formal rules for the tournament, and to be genaerlay observed in gameplay, although it is of course entirley up to the players involved in a friendly, especialy about money. Well here are the main issues to vote on, if anyone can think of more please tell me and I'll add them.

[Basileus Seleukeia]

Perhaps a restriction on elite units. It's not really fun to fight against 4 units of Hypaspistai... I thought of a 2 or 3 unit restriction of elites. I think we all agree elites are units like: Hypaspistai, Pheraspidai, Thorakitai Argyraspidai, Casse sword masters, Dosidateskeli, Prätorians and above.

[Moros]

No restriction on HA.
No experience or any other upgrades.
Perhaps max. 6 slingers might not be a bad idea, though.
I'd say just keep an army like it historically could exist, common sense.

Prices? infinitum, but no unit upgrades and a realistic army composition should be all. (can you even check if someone upgraded units?)

[Basileus Seleukeia]

No restriction on HA.
No experience or any other upgrades.
Perhaps max. 6 slingers might not be a bad idea, though.
I'd say just keep an army like it historically could exist, common sense.

Prices? infinitum, but no unit upgrades and a realistic army composition should be all. (can you even check if someone upgraded units?)

make the 6 slingers 2 and I'l sign it

[The Internet]

TBH you should look at the MP rules we had for RTR, it may not be the same game but most of them worked really well including rules like No HA armies and no more than 3 slingers or archers (since slingers in this game are so damn strong, having more than 3 wouldn't be fun), only a certain amount of elite units and no more than 4 units of cav (there were varations of this that had to do with if you had less elite cav you could have a little more normal skirmisher/light cav etc but that can be delt with later).

[bovi]

I won't be actively participating in a tournament. But I'd like to point out that there is no way to get more than 3 chevrons on units in multiplayer, so the options above that are impossible.

[Moros]

TBH you should look at the MP rules we had for RTR, it may not be the same game but most of them worked really well including rules like No HA armies and no more than 3 slingers or archers (since slingers in this game are so damn strong, having more than 3 wouldn't be fun), only a certain amount of elite units and no more than 4 units of cav (there were varations of this that had to do with if you had less elite cav you could have a little more normal skirmisher/light cav etc but that can be delt with later).

Don't you think it be ridiculous that if you play the sauromatae you can only have 4 cavalry units? It is ridiculous. That like a roman army with maximum 4 infantry units. And that is ridiculous, wouldn't you agree?

[The Internet]

To be honest battles with anymore than 2-3 HA's is annoying. Being one of the old RTR MP vets and having fouhgnt against a few HA armies in my time i can tell you from experience that you end up just wanting to cry. It's like trying to swat a fly buzzing around your head when you don't have any hands so you just end up looking like an idiot running all over the place and just wishing you had a way to end the battle successfully.


In all seriousness though, it is quite annoying and just doesn't have the same intensity and excitement of two great battle lines clashing together while great cavarly skirmishers battle on the flanks to gain the upper hand so that they can have a chance to turn the tide of battle while reserves are rushed in to keep front lines from buckling and allowing the enemy to tear right through the middle and destroy any chance of victory and more importantly... survival.


.... There is a point in there somewhere.


Edit: and elephants aren't really the same since they are pretty useless in MP to be honest because it's the first thing people go for, they're generally very expensive and take up space (and money) in your army which could be used to field something more useful.

[Fondor_Yards]

Um the steppe people, who were very poor, were able to field huge amounts of HA, there's no reason they should cost more then infantry. Everyone out in the steppe had at least one horse, if you didn't you were probably dead. Nobles had what, several thousand of them? If anything, HA current cost too much and should have their costs dropped down a tad.

I find slowly wittling away an enemy's army with arrows from afar, then crushing their forces underfoot with a mighty cataphract charge to be just as exciting and fun, or even more then an infantry battle.

So has anyone done a HA battle?

[Pharnakes]

Its fun for you, less fun for the impotent infantry comander...


especialy if they have artilery

[Fondor_Yards]

Then the impotent infantry comander can learn how to kill cavalry. It's rather easy, normal HA like the defensive and attack stats of a small child.

[The Internet]

If you can find someone willing to battle you with a HA army then thats great, but good luck to you.