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    Q: Archers

    I had to raise a merc army( phanlax skirmish and archers) to fight of a enemy stack when i attacked and made first contact the archers rushed in without firing a single shot


    i had had my army under ai control except for my cavalry

    is this still a common problem?

    everything else went fine the enemy got flanked etc

    btw this was my first roman battle with this mod i had 8 units the enemy only 3 but they where elite

    sorry for my english
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassem
    Q: Archers

    I had to raise a merc army( phanlax skirmish and archers) to fight of a enemy stack when i attacked and made first contact the archers rushed in without firing a single shot


    i had had my army under ai control except for my cavalry

    is this still a common problem?

    everything else went fine the enemy got flanked etc

    btw this was my first roman battle with this mod i had 8 units the enemy only 3 but they where elite

    sorry for my english
    Not a common thing(that i know of), it looks to me that AI used them as light infantry, in lack of it.

    Ai has a list of preference for each position in formation, if unit that is first on the list is not available then AI go down the list till find one.If there is none from that list, AI will chose on it's own

    I would believe thats what happened.

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    Default Re: Darth Dark Formations for EB

    I have one more question about changing the width of the deployed units in darths dark formations: Do I have to replace the "min_unit_width" and "max_unit_width" lines only in the "decr_formations.txt" or in both txt.-files?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus Kuhlmann
    I have one more question about changing the width of the deployed units in darths dark formations: Do I have to replace the "min_unit_width" and "max_unit_width" lines only in the "decr_formations.txt" or in both txt.-files?
    Actually, it only needs to be edited in descr_formations_ai.txt.
    You don't have to touch descr_formations.txt. I know it sounds like i have it backwards but only descr_formations_ai.txt is necessary.

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    Thank you very much for the help, Lysander!

    Edit: Just tried it, seems to work fine. Thanx again!
    Last edited by Quirinus Kuhlmann; 07-13-2007 at 11:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus Kuhlmann
    Thank you very much for the help, Lysander!

    Edit: Just tried it, seems to work fine. Thanx again!
    Good to hear...Enjoy

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    Had a fight with my polybian army against a full stack from Carthage (sorry forgot the eb name)

    they had 2 generals 4 heavy spearman 2 heavy assault troops and 2 of those iberian heavy lancers cavalry and allot of medium spearman

    in short the infantry was acting ok but my cavalry now controlled also by ai went around and attacked a group of heavy spearman and a general and they were not yet engaged in the main fight of course they received unnecessary heavy beating

    and my general was staying a little bit far behind my troops and attacked a few times the mainforce head on

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    Default Re: Darth Dark Formations for EB

    Darth has a non-mod specific version of the formation files in his formations Super Pack. Does this not work with EB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantu
    Darth has a non-mod specific version of the formation files in his formations Super Pack. Does this not work with EB?

    No it doesn't , since you have to match formations with factions and their names in EB. Plus those are based on vanila strenghts of units, which are different then EB ones.

    Modification includes combination of , what i have found most appropriate formations to match EB units.Unfortunatelly, nothing cannot be perfect due to many things.But i have intention to fix some stuff in 0.9.

    I personally was not to happy with behavior in battles with that non-mod, units were not trying to flank much.

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    Hi
    I have been trying lately to do the modification the Lysander13 explained a couple of posts sooner.

    However, when the "replace all" function, the notepad always end up freezing and doing all the replacements manually is time consuming, is there any reasons why notepad would freeze like that?

    Thanks
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    Default Re: Darth Dark Formations for EB

    Don't know any reason, but you could try to do the replacement in another tool, such as Wordpad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriote
    Hi
    I have been trying lately to do the modification the Lysander13 explained a couple of posts sooner.

    However, when the "replace all" function, the notepad always end up freezing and doing all the replacements manually is time consuming, is there any reasons why notepad would freeze like that?

    Thanks

    I am not sure why is that happening , but i am certain that is not caused by specific file.

    As Bovi suggested , try wordpad

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    Default Re: Darth Dark Formations for EB

    Quote Originally Posted by mlp071
    Not a common thing(that i know of), it looks to me that AI used them as light infantry, in lack of it.

    Ai has a list of preference for each position in formation, if unit that is first on the list is not available then AI go down the list till find one.If there is none from that list, AI will chose on it's own

    I would believe thats what happened.



    Ok thats make sense

    But what is the best unit composition for my roman legions i mean how many archer/skirmishers, tiari, principles, cavalry do i need in 1 legion so this mod can use the legion to the max where its made for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassem
    Ok thats make sense

    But what is the best unit composition for my roman legions i mean how many archer/skirmishers, tiari, principles, cavalry do i need in 1 legion so this mod can use the legion to the max where its made for
    There is post with historical army compositions somewhere on forum. I always try to play according to that one. There will be always chance that Ai can misplace unit ( nothing that we can do about it).

    But don't forget that you had only 8 units in your army, so there was a big chance that you were missing some type of unit.And AI had only 3 , so he had to come up with some melee fighters

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    Default Re: Darth Dark Formations for EB

    Quote Originally Posted by mlp071
    There is post with historical army compositions somewhere on forum. I always try to play according to that one. There will be always chance that Ai can misplace unit ( nothing that we can do about it).

    But don't forget that you had only 8 units in your army, so there was a big chance that you were missing some type of unit.And AI had only 3 , so he had to come up with some melee fighters


    Ok thanks,

    Just had my polybian reforms

    my polybian army composition is

    1 general
    2 cavalry
    5 hastati
    5 principes
    3 triarrii
    2 hastati samnitici
    2 velites

    but i'm still l king for a big fight with these legions

    setting is huge and playing VH/M

    i will keep you informed with screen shots if you like

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    Is it compatible with First cohor mod?

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    Default Re: Darth Dark Formations for EB

    Quote Originally Posted by Blingerman
    Is it compatible with First cohor mod?
    Yes it is, as this file will not overwrite any file in the First Cohort Mod or vice versa.

    Edit: This is true presuming the only 2 files contained in this download are descr_formations.txt and descr_formations_ai.txt.
    Last edited by Lysander13; 07-20-2007 at 15:15.

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