total war 4

[Didz]

Yep! Like I say NTW would require a major rework of both the Battle and Campaign engines if it was to work. The battle engine I've already discussed, the campaign engine would need to provide a much more enhanced diplomatic function to cope with the concepts of coalitions and multi-state factions such as the Confederation of the Rhine. It would also need a much more sophisticated ecomonic system to cope with the impact of trade on the various factions and their role in the conflicts. (Something like Crown of Glory, but hopefully with a much better interface)

[Fadly]

i think they should test it first as an expansion for M2TW. see how it work out in a current engine (with few improvements). from the players response, CA can make a guideline of creating NTW.

personally, i see no fault in the M2TW gunpowder units. in a late period, half of my armies are gunpowders (i play turks and i build a lot of janissari musketeers and cannons).

[Didz]

i think they should test it first as an expansion for M2TW. see how it work out in a current engine (with few improvements). from the players response, CA can make a guideline of creating NTW.

I think thats already been done, check out this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wkmR5tjfCc
I think this mod is based on MTW but basically its the same battle engine.

There are other video's featuring this mod here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYVf...elated&search=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxz...elated&search=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ7u...elated&search=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp8d...elated&search=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UuY...elated&search=

As you can see the visuals are more or less there, accurate uniforms appropriate formations. the modders have done everything possible within the limitations of the game engine itself. The dedication is quite amazing and a testiment to just how much these people want this game, but they can only go so far without changes to the engine itself. As you can see the command and control is not quite right and the morale system is far too tuned to medieval warfare allowing a lot of a-historic melee combat.

[Csargo]

STW2

[rvg]

STW2

word.

[diotavelli]

STW2

I don't see it, personally. STW was a great game but, by very nature of its setting, can't offer the level of diversity that we're now used to from RTW and M2TW. CA rely on that diversity to give the game extra depth and colour: playing as the Polish you tend toward HA, the English to longbowmen, the Milanese and Venetians to militia and so on. The fact that the factions can seem quite different means the game has a longer play-life than it might otherwise do.

I could be wrong (and feel free to tell me if I am!) but I think CA would struggle to get that level of diversity in S2TW. For that reason, I don't think they'd ever release it. The TW brand relies upon releasing game after game that are smarter, richer in depth and detail, prettier to look at and more engrossing each time (whether they deliver on all of these is a different matter!). Releasing a game that might be smarter and prettier to look at but that could be accused of having less depth and detail would be too risky.

For that reason, I think we can expect all future TW titles (as opposed to expansions) to operate on a map at least close to continental in scope (Europe, SE Asia or eastern Americas, for example). This will give them the scope for diversity that they're looking for.

To support my case, I present exhibit A, m'lud: the first expansion for M2TW, namely "Kingdoms". As you will know, m'lud, the expansion includes a number of campaigns dealing with territories of a size and a number of factions comparable with those in the original STW. It would seem that CA do not feel a campaign of such a size any longer merits a full title dedicated to it.

This is my opinion. I am prepared to change it in return for cash bribes (even quite small ones).

[Crimison]

STW2

I'm just after seeing a really cool TV show about samurai weapons, and that just gave me the urge to play STW. So, basically, I WANT MY STW2!

Just as long as it has good AI....