Cheating problem

[mlp071]

Why would you want to kill them at first place?

[Pharnakes]

Cause its their entire army, even with the money scripts there's no way they could train new units in greece, and even if I let them have Kyrenia, the Ptolemaioi would have it off them in half a dozen turns, thus killing Makedonia.

[mlp071]

Cause its their entire army, even with the money scripts there's no way they could train new units in greece, and even if I let them have Kyrenia, the Ptolemaioi would have it off them in half a dozen turns, thus killing Makedonia.

Heh, every time when i think i seen it all from AI, it suprise me with something even more dumb.

Do you have Forced diplomacy mod?Maybe you can give them some province that you take from someone else. When you give them province it spawns certain amount of units in it.

Or just let them die, unfortunatelly it is know situation that Maks AI is quite prone to losing (like 100%)

[Pharnakes]

Yeah, I'm just about to try the force diplomacy. Ahh well, it can't make things worse.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Yeah, if you use forced diplomacy and make them your ally or protectorate, it might be enough for them to turn their fleet around. But they might just attack you anyways, since the AI doesn't follow diplomacy too well.

[mlp071]

Yeah, I'm just about to try the force diplomacy. Ahh well, it can't make things worse.

Hehe , just wait , AI can suprise you in many ways .


I watched once Maks AI trying to take Athenai for 40 years (not turns) with small force , despite having full stack standing next to it all the time.They never used that stack , so i am not sure are you just delaying inevitable for them

[Pharnakes]

Yeah, but remeber the Makedonians of pre 0.8, what happen to them?

[mlp071]

Yeah, but remeber the Makedonians of pre 0.8, what happen to them?

They got nuked(not sure how is that changed and when), KH starts in better economical and specially population situation. Pella and Demetrias have less population together then Athenai alone, plus Maks make 5000-10000 mnai less then KH or Epiros at start.Not to mention Rhodos being 12k population city.Same goes for Epeiros.
And Maks AI is completely uncapable to bring reinforcements from Mytilene most of the times. They usually end up having stack there standing and wasting their upkeep money.And they can't make better quality units in Corinth, which they never manage to keep for long anyways.

Resulting in Maks cannot replace losses , while KH and Epiros are multiplying like rabbits..

**** EDIT: thats why i was saying on other thread that Maks are not that much of ease anymore. Sure they are easier then most of the factions , but you do have tougher time in Greece in beggining then before. In Greece at present EB version , easiest to play is KH now..oh well , it's same to me..

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Hehe , just wait , AI can suprise you in many ways .


I watched once Maks AI trying to take Athenai for 40 years (not turns) with small force , despite having full stack standing next to it all the time.They never used that stack , so i am not sure are you just delaying inevitable for them

I saw something similar once. Carthage had three stacks standing on their border with Cydaus but only sent a couple units to attack it and kept failing. I used the move_character cheat to move all of their stack next the city while they were sieging it and they took the next turn. They then moved their attension to Iberia where they had been losing for decades because all of their military was staring off into the desert.

On the Maks:
One time the Maks were losing terribly and I noticed they had nearly no population in Pella so I cheated to give them 3000 more. They managed to overrun Epirus, KH, and Getai from that one settlement (Lesbos doesn't count). Maybe population is their problem?