Circumcision Removes Most Sensitive Bits

[Lemur]

I know, if lemur isn't posting about torture or debt, it must be about circumcision. Couldn't find the old monster thread, so we'll just have to start a new one.

Anyway, there's a new study that shows how vital the bits removed are. "Researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery."

I feel vindicated in my decision to leave my littlest lemur unchopped.

Study: Circumcision Removes Most Sensitive Parts

By Ker Than, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 15 June 2007 12:53 pm ET

How much does circumcision alter what a man ultimately feels? Scientific studies aiming to answer this question have been inconclusive.

Now researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery.

The finding, announced today, was detailed in the April issue of the British Journal of Urology (BJU) International.

Circumcision surgery involves the removal of the skin that covers the tip of the penis, called the foreskin. Infant male circumcision is the most common medical procedure in the United States, with an estimated 60 percent of male newborns undergoing the surgery.

Morris Sorrells of National Organization of Circumcision Information Resources Center and colleagues created a “penile sensitivity map” by measuring the sensitivity of 19 locations on the penises of 159 male volunteers. Of the participants, 91 were circumcised as infants and none had histories of penile or sexual dysfunction.

For circumcised penises, the most sensitive region was the circumcision scar on the underside of the penis, the researchers found. For uncircumcised penises, the areas most receptive to pressure were five regions normally removed during circumcision—all of which were more sensitive than the most sensitive part of the circumcised penis.

Circumcision is a procedure practiced in several countries for medical as well as cultural reasons. Most scientists agree that the surgery confers some protection against infection and the risk of contracting sexual diseases. Recent studies have also shown that circumcision can lower the risks of HIV infection by as much as 60 percent in sex between males and females.

But Robert Van Howe, a study team member at Michigan State University, thinks such claims are somewhat overblown. “The [health benefits] that have been consistently shown are very small, and there are less aggressive, less invasive, less expensive ways of dealing with the problems [circumcision] is supposed to address,” Van Howe told LiveScience.

Other practices, such as choosing sexual partners wisely and using condoms consistently, are far more effective in protecting against diseases, he added.

Circumcision is opposed by some groups on the grounds that it is painful and not a life-saving procedure, and that it also makes sex less pleasurable by exposing and numbing the tip of the penis, called the glans. Some have gone so far as recommending foreskin restoration.

Some previous studies found that circumcision led to little, if any, decrease in penile sensitivity, but Sorrells and his colleagues say such findings are suspect because many are based on self-reports from men who were circumcised to correct medical problems.

[Strike For The South]

I hate my mum

HATE!

I honestly think Im missing out on so much

[CountArach]

*Shakes head*

All that wasted skin... Its just so hard to think about.

[Strike For The South]

*Shakes head*

All that wasted skin... Its just so hard to think about.

swing....and a miss.

[CountArach]

Intentional.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

"Researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery."

I would think it to be an advantage when you are young and inexperienced

It also explains why Christians do it. People masturbate too often already. Lets not encourage them



From Robin Hood Men in tights

Rabbi Tuckman: [referring to a circumcision] The ladies love it!
Rabbi Tuckman: I am Rabbi Tuckman, purveyor of sacramental wine and moyel extraordinaire.
Robin Hood: What's a moyel?
Rabbi Tuckman: Moyel? He's a very important guy. He makes circumcisions.
Robin Hood: And what, pray tell, sir, is a circumcision?
Rabbi Tuckman: It's the latest craze. The ladies love it!
Achoo: I'll take one.
Little John: I'll take two!
Robin Hood: I'm game, how's it done?
Rabbi Tuckman: [pulls out a carrot and a miniature guillotine, and sticks the end of the carrot into the hole] I take my machine here, I take your little thing, I put it through this hole, and then,
[releases the blade, cutting the end off the carrot]
Rabbi Tuckman: I nip the tip! Whose first?
Little John: I changed my mind!
Blinkin: Christian!
Achoo: I forgot, I already got one!

[Strike For The South]

Intentional.

How convienent

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Gawain of Orkeny]

How convienent

And as we said true. Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy.

[Reverend Joe]

Wait... is this supposed to be bad news? Wouldn't this be all good news? I mean, if circumcision lengthens the amount of time required to...

I should stop.

Oh, I can't resist... now I have something on all you uncircumcised Christian heathens.

...Or something off, rather.

[Gregoshi]

Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy.

My thoughts exactly.

I have become comfortably numb.

[Strike For The South]

My thoughts exactly.

I have become comfortably numb.

Best pun ever

/E-hug

[Papewaio]

And as we said true. Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy.

So by your equation:

Trigger Time = 'Max Pleasure Quota' / 'Pleasure per unit of time'

But what if with control

Trigger Time proportional to 'Pleasure per unit of time'... so more pleasure and longer lasting.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Originally Posted by Gregoshi
My thoughts exactly.

I have become comfortably numb.

Now that gives a whole new meaning to my favorite song of all time. It will never be the same. Thanks m8.

I wonder when the Weird Al version is coming out?

[Ianofsmeg16]

I wonder when the Weird Al version is coming out?

"I have become, annoyingly dumb"

Comfortably Numb, The George W. Bush remix.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I know, if lemur isn't posting about torture or debt, it must be about circumcision. Couldn't find the old monster thread, so we'll just have to start a new one.

Anyway, there's a new study that shows how vital the bits removed are. "Researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery."

I feel vindicated in my decision to leave my littlest lemur unchopped.

Study: Circumcision Removes Most Sensitive Parts

By Ker Than, LiveScience Staff Writer
posted: 15 June 2007 12:53 pm ET

How much does circumcision alter what a man ultimately feels? Scientific studies aiming to answer this question have been inconclusive.

Now researchers prodding dozens of male penises with a fine-tipped tool have found that the five areas most receptive to fine-touch are routinely removed by the surgery.

The finding, announced today, was detailed in the April issue of the British Journal of Urology (BJU) International.

Circumcision surgery involves the removal of the skin that covers the tip of the penis, called the foreskin. Infant male circumcision is the most common medical procedure in the United States, with an estimated 60 percent of male newborns undergoing the surgery.

Morris Sorrells of National Organization of Circumcision Information Resources Center and colleagues created a “penile sensitivity map” by measuring the sensitivity of 19 locations on the penises of 159 male volunteers. Of the participants, 91 were circumcised as infants and none had histories of penile or sexual dysfunction.

For circumcised penises, the most sensitive region was the circumcision scar on the underside of the penis, the researchers found. For uncircumcised penises, the areas most receptive to pressure were five regions normally removed during circumcision—all of which were more sensitive than the most sensitive part of the circumcised penis.

Circumcision is a procedure practiced in several countries for medical as well as cultural reasons. Most scientists agree that the surgery confers some protection against infection and the risk of contracting sexual diseases. Recent studies have also shown that circumcision can lower the risks of HIV infection by as much as 60 percent in sex between males and females.

But Robert Van Howe, a study team member at Michigan State University, thinks such claims are somewhat overblown. “The [health benefits] that have been consistently shown are very small, and there are less aggressive, less invasive, less expensive ways of dealing with the problems [circumcision] is supposed to address,” Van Howe told LiveScience.

Other practices, such as choosing sexual partners wisely and using condoms consistently, are far more effective in protecting against diseases, he added.

Circumcision is opposed by some groups on the grounds that it is painful and not a life-saving procedure, and that it also makes sex less pleasurable by exposing and numbing the tip of the penis, called the glans. Some have gone so far as recommending foreskin restoration.

Some previous studies found that circumcision led to little, if any, decrease in penile sensitivity, but Sorrells and his colleagues say such findings are suspect because many are based on self-reports from men who were circumcised to correct medical problems.

I'm hardly surprised. Circumcision is a religious-sadistic ritual to suppress the male sexuality, just like female circumcision is a ritual to suppress female sexuality. Good that the study has been presented, so that at least medical research can finally start devising an alternative surgery (that doesn't remove the senses) for those who do it for non-religious reasons. Also, that it will finally not be considered any better than Clitoridectomy. Perhaps this will be the start of a campaign against the oppression of men in the cultures that use circumcision.

[doc_bean]

And as we said true. Girls dont like guys that are quick on the trigger there cowboy.

I don't have a problem with that.

Also: Greg somebody beat you to that pun by a couple of years, although then it was about masturbation

[Ironside]

Circumcision surgery involves the removal of the skin that covers the tip of the penis, called the foreskin. Infant male circumcision is the most common medical procedure in the United States, with an estimated 60 percent of male newborns undergoing the surgery.

So uhm, how did the USA end up in Bizzaro World in this issue?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Well, if you want to last longer it's probably easier to rub a little topical anaesthetic on then, say, getting circumcised. The former's more reversible.

[Grey_Fox]

I'm hardly surprised. Circumcision is a religious-sadistic ritual to suppress the male sexuality, just like female circumcision is a ritual to suppress female sexuality. Good that the study has been presented, so that at least medical research can finally start devising an alternative surgery (that doesn't remove the senses) for those who do it for non-religious reasons. Also, that it will finally not be considered any better than Clitoridectomy. Perhaps this will be the start of a campaign against the oppression of men in the cultures that use circumcision.

I'm almost tempted to tell you what you could do, but I won't. I'm circumcised and never had a problem with it. I don't want somebody else to tell me that I've been brutalised, mutilated or oppressed, and indeed if you said that to me face to face I'd have no problem punching you.

And no that isn't an inferiority complex speaking.

And no, I don't feel 'numb'. I enjoy sex very much thank you, and I like the fact that there's no bacterial growth on my penis.

[Reverend Joe]

@Grey Fox: I'm pretty sure Legio was joking... "oppression of men in cultures that use circumcision?" Come on.

@Lemur: You really should have your kid(s?) clipped. If nothing else whatsoever, it greatly reduces the odor. Hate to be crude, but it's true.

Besides which, who is really going to want to rub on some "topical anesthetic" before sex? "Excuse me, lover, whilst I rub some cream onto my penis, and then we can get going."

[HoreTore]

@Lemur: You really should have your kid(s?) clipped. If nothing else whatsoever, it greatly reduces the odor. Hate to be crude, but it's true.

I'd say soap is an easier way of doing it. My schnauser smells perfectly well.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Circumcision is a religious-sadistic ritual to suppress the male sexuality, just like female circumcision is a ritual to suppress female sexuality.

Very much so.

It originated as a religious-sexual ritual to emphasize male sexuality. Like female mutilation, it belongs to the Nile / Red Sea basin. Where men used to be able to walk around naked, proudly swinging their exposed red knob at other men to emphasize their masculinity.
Circumcision has no place in societies where men don't routinely flaunt their willy to impress other men. (Yes, it's to impress men, not women).

It is a religious, not a medical practice. The Jews and many Muslims do it, along with some scattered stone-age tribes, and the Americans. The puritan Americans started this brutal practice at the end of the 19th century. The object is to remove the sensitive, moving parts so boys would be less inclined to play with their toys.

Circumcision can lead to many medical complications during the circumcision itself, and often creates later problems, while the hygienic and preventative benefits are non-existent for first-world peoples with access to condoms and clean water.

[Lorenzo_H]

This conversation is gross and making me shudder uncontrolably.

It reminds me of this one guy who's circumcision went wrong; the whole thing got cut off, so his parents decided to raise him as a girl.

I'm fighting not to vomit as I (try not to) think about it.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I don't have a problem with that.

Well maybe you could still do better You will never know until you try it . Then if your married you can get an unbiased opinion from your wife.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I'm almost tempted to tell you what you could do, but I won't. I'm circumcised and never had a problem with it. I don't want somebody else to tell me that I've been brutalised, mutilated or oppressed, and indeed if you said that to me face to face I'd have no problem punching you.

And no that isn't an inferiority complex speaking.

And no, I don't feel 'numb'. I enjoy sex very much thank you, and I like the fact that there's no bacterial growth on my penis.

I'm circumcised myself so I know what I'm talking about. I used to brag about cleanness and "sex lasts longer" when I was still in my denial phase, but I now realize how pathetic I was at that time. It's not at all cleaner, unless you live in a desert without water to clean yourself, and women don't have a problem with the length of intercourse with most unmutilated men, if at all it lasts longer with mutilated penis, it's a diluted experience. "Clean" and "long lasting sex" were excuses I used to accept my condition.

I don't need a random stranger on the Internet telling me that he'll punch me in the face when I say I feel repressed and deprived of my human rights after this mutilation. How many people do I need to hear telling me that it's not normal to feel mutilated - here I'm even threatened with violence over it. I think people who have suffered such mutilation should receive support to get past the denial state, rather than being scared into keeping the frustration inside and feeling increasingly traumatized. I'm glad this study has finally proven that circumcision is mutilation, and that other circumcised people, as well as some unmutilated people, can stop calling me abnormal for feeling mutilated and repressed, and that I can receive support to live a normal life despite this. And that perhaps states will invest money into researching organ regeneration to find a way of perhaps reversing this mentally painful condition. And that people who do circumcision for non-religious reasons receive alternate treatments, such as possibly removing only the upper 10th of the foreskin, rather than all of it, or similar. And that society fairly either takes stance against both male and female genital mutilation (in the name of human rights), or none of them (in the name of religious tolerance).

[Rodion Romanovich]

@Grey Fox: I'm pretty sure Legio was joking... "oppression of men in cultures that use circumcision?" Come on.

I wasn't joking

[Lemur]

So uhm, how did the USA end up in Bizzaro World in this issue?

I researched the heck out of this when I was deciding what to do with my boy lemur. Basically, circumcision was really uncommon in the U.S.A. until the early 20th century, when it was promoted as an anti-masturbation measure. That was the first argument put forward. By the '40s and '50s it was said to be an essential hygenic step. These days they say it's a great way to prevent cancer of the foreskin, and stop aids.

It's good to be suspicious when the rationales keep changing but the goal stays static.

[Reverend Joe]

Holy crap, you really weren't... wow.

Seriously, man, it sounds like you have some very weird sexual issues that you are expressing via your hatred of circumcision. Please, go see a psychologist and bother us not with your surreal rants.

[doc_bean]

Well maybe you could still do better You will never know until you try it . Then if your married you can get an unbiased opinion from your wife.

I'm not worried, sex can be exhausting for the woman too, you know and they don't always want it to go on forever.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I don't need a random stranger on the Internet telling me that he'll punch me in the face when I say I feel repressed and deprived of my human rights after this mutilation. How many people do I need to hear telling me that it's not normal to feel mutilated

Seriouly this sounds like a physiological problem. How many here remember being circumcized? All that counts is what your woman thinks.