Succession

[Foot]

You can use the loyalty even in 1.5, the problem is that the rebels would defect only to the eleutheroi, it's potentially very buggy and unless you do lots of scripting behind it wouldn't add as much as many would think to the game...

No, we've talked about this. You need to have a non-playable shadow faction for loyalty not to work. If you make the eleutheroi the shadow-faction then as soon as they are destroyed the game ctds (apparently).

Foot

[Geoffrey S]

Do you mean the game ctds when a regular faction of which the eleutheroi are the shadowfaction is destroyed, or when the eleutheroi is destroyed? I didn't even realise the latter was possible; isn't there that unreachable city in the south-west?

[Zarax]

You're right about the CTD, but AFAIK eleutheroi can't be destroied in EB (terrhazza isn't reachable by the player so that should take care of the problem).
The other side of the coin is that you can have maximum 2 factions with loyalty with that setup... Seleucids and Ptolemies could be good candidates but I'm sure that whatever the option you will make the best use of it.

[Pharnakes]

No, we've talked about this. You need to have a non-playable shadow faction for loyalty not to work. If you make the eleutheroi the shadow-faction then as soon as they are destroyed the game ctds (apparently).

Foot

Yeah, surely the shara province prevents the eluthoroi from ever being destroyed.