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    Me being Armenian, I love playing as Armenia, but that's not the only reason: there is always this constant threat that you're under in the beginning of the campaign. However, slowly but surely, I've always managed to gobble up Anatolia, Thrace, the Levant, and Egypt.

    Great faction to play.


    Oh, and yes, the Danes on Early are very easy, due to their terrific Viking infantry. I remember I played an XL game (extreme) with them, and built a very good empire all around the Baltic and North Seas, as far down south as Poland. The only other super power at the time was Spain (and holy mother of God, they were huge). I decided to fight them, but was horrible defeated due to my failing economy (it was very strong before war), and because their total military outnumbered me by 14352345235 to 1.
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    No decent generals ...Too many places to defend with your weak forces ...Not enough money ...Initially landlocked ...Not ready to face the Mongols in time = The Vulgar-Bulgars. I died the death of a thousand lovebugs when I played them.
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    The French! The provinces are seperated , leaving you vulnerable to English invasions or HRE. You have spend the early periods of campaign building up military especially in Toulouse

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    I just played poland high/vanilla MTW:VI, and they were quite annoying and therefore fun to play.

    In the beginning I struggled with the HRE, when they were down I was hit on by the horde, and after that an incredibly strong russia. Those Boyars with 5-6 valor were litterary killing my poor digital subjects. My weak income and the obsolete units coupled with low influence kings and no generals with any command stars whatsoever gave me a good run for the money. Some in this forum suggested Poland easy, but that wasn't my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by History Geek
    I was hit on by the horde
    So did you guys exchange phone numbers then, or did you decide they weren't your type?

    Sorry, I couldn't resist....
    Quote Originally Posted by History Geek
    Some in this forum suggested Poland easy, but that wasn't my experience.

    /HG
    I've never done very well the few times I've played as the Polish. Of course, I'm sure part of the reason is the very fact I've not played them that much, but they're still definitely one of the tougher vanilla factions IMHO.
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    Hmm, I had trouble playing as Lithuania, myself. It just seemed like I couldn't get enough money together. Plus the fact that you've got enemies on all sides, and you're 'royal' unit is Lithuanian cavalry early on. The only thing I like about them is their color and the way their troops look. As for Volga Bulgar, well, I've never been dumb enough to try them on high period.

    Also, who ever said Poland was easy? I've found them to be quite difficult, myself. Stuff just always seems to go wrong for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martok
    So did you guys exchange phone numbers then.
    Well, I'm sure the fact I had 4 unmarried princesses lured them to attack me, completely ignoring everybody else. A somewhat strange way to show your interest however. Though I've never tried this method myself in RL, (riding up to my inlaws with a bow and a sword demanding their daughters hand in marriage) in the game they were politely turned down at the end of a halberd.

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    Though I've never tried this method myself in RL, (riding up to my inlaws with a bow and a sword demanding their daughters hand in marriage)
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    Quote Originally Posted by History Geek
    I just played poland high/vanilla MTW:VI, and they were quite annoying and therefore fun to play.

    In the beginning I struggled with the HRE, when they were down I was hit on by the horde, and after that an incredibly strong russia. Those Boyars with 5-6 valor were litterary killing my poor digital subjects. My weak income and the obsolete units coupled with low influence kings and no generals with any command stars whatsoever gave me a good run for the money. Some in this forum suggested Poland easy, but that wasn't my experience.

    /HG

    Poland is pretty hard... It is hard to find somewhere to break out to. There are factions all around you and they aren't always so nice... (like HRE and Russia) Plus they don't get anything too special as far as units go except for Polish Retainers. (which are pretty good!)
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    Whoever said Poland was easy is on lots of drugs.


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    On XL i found Serbia very difficult...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roark
    Whoever said Poland was easy is on lots of drugs.

    HEY! I just spent a couple of weeks on holiday and immediately people start to insult me! So i admit that i said Poland is rather easy, and i can also assure you that i hadnt taken any kind of drugs. But i guess that i should clarify my earlier statement a bit: in the beginning it was very challenging, but after i managed to conquer those rich Hungarian provinces it started to feel rather easy, although i had a lot of luck with me, since i had only taken Kiev and not the other steppe provinces, and therefor after the GH emerged i just had a couple of easy bridgebattles against them.. And also the HRE was busy all the time with france and later spain so it had no time to attack me, so i didnt have to maintain large garrisons on the German borders.

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    Actually, I find most anyone annoying in the late game. The reason is that the A.I. is too aggressive...or at least unrealistically aggressive. Late in the game I've got my empire shored up with high quality stack and good general at borders. Ready to just coast to the end (GA). Somebody always attacks. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have no spies, agents or towers. Let's assume they think my armies are full of UM and hobilars instead of Gold everything SAP, Arbs, and Gothic knights...Why once the hammer falls, do they never surrender. The way u end a war in the late game is destroy the enemy or turn them into rebels. I don't want their @#$%^& land at that point. I don't want to build anything. I just want to coast to my GA victory. Yet I have to wipe them out to get peace. Why does the AI do this? Why does it insist on starting a war they can't win. Even if they didn't know it at first, they won't surrender once they realize they can't win. You're whooping them everywhere, reducing them to one or two provinces with hardly any troops and THEY WON'T SURRENDER!!! In RL, in medieval Europe, there are few of these "factions" that were wiped out. I don't want a wimpy AI mind you, but I wish they were quicker to make peace when it is logical to do so. People were made vassals. People refocused on other things. New kings may have been pansies, etc. I just hate it when these endless wars against weak enemies begin about 1350. If they would co-ordinate and all take you on at once in some grand alliance it could be fun, but they never really support each other.


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    Well said The Darkhorn. You may try the auto cease fire trick also (siege them to the last castle and withdraw before the castle fail).
    I found that after you become the dominant power, everybody will hate you, no matter of period. For me it happened as Byz in ~1170, all are at war with me, catholics and muslims as one, even they do not support each other actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosminus
    I found that after you become the dominant power, everybody will hate you, no matter of period.
    SO TRUE!!! Although that is kind of regrettable, it is nice in that it makes it harder when you are the superpower!
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