Unit cohesion needs a big fix, sooner rather than later

[Callahan9119]

they will EVENTUALLY move, but sometimes 30 out 0f 40 men will stand around, especially if you halt them to charge a new enemy, like i said it happens to a greater or lesser degree, but when i need my last unit of vangrian guard to form up and move now or else i'm the one about to get routed it sticks in my memory

maybe you dont notice it as much but if your paying attention and use mostly infantry based armies like me it happens alot, i rely on those shock infantry, english knights, vangrians etc

[Alsn]

Yea i know what you mean which is why i mostly switched over to archer heavy and cavalry heavy armies with mostly some heavily armoured infantry to tie up annoying enemies while i pepper/flank them to death.

It also "works" in the other direction when you want to move away your own unit to form up and recharge a straggler gets stuck in the enemy units prohibiting the remaining 59 from doing anything productive until it dies off or decides that maybe he should get in line.

[WhiskeyGhost]

i hate it when defending a settlement, and a routing enemy unit regains it morale to rally enough, but that 1 guy trapped on my wall for some reason, with my guys standing 2 feet from him, opens my gates up and lets everyone rush in......

thats just plain sucky

[Callahan9119]

i would love to use archer heavy armies, but they seem to only work in sieges or sometimes if your attacking, and enemy army attacking always just charges...resulting in a big sigh from me when i am missle heavy <although if your HA heavy its not so bad>

this bug is my biggest complaint, followed by pikes, i can goad enemies into my pikes without having to move them, you just have to be careful, but i find them to much of a bother, and they should go back to the old rtw phalanx usage, or something similar...take away secondary weapons

guns with the weird reloading odd fire delays and generaly being useless besides a run to the flanks and fire a fear inspiring salvo

regarding this unit cohesion problem i had a situation today where my camel gunners had one of their men trapped by infantry, but didnt die, so the rest of my camels started to break up and moonwalk resulting in about ten of them dying because they appeared to run as if in quicksand....due to this 1 camel being stuck in the enemy lines

[Tyrac]

How about this.

90% of the ppl that play do not even realize this is a problem..... until they read these forums.


In fact I bet 90% of the ppl that bought this game did not see ANY of these "game killing bugs" unless they were uber geeks like us that post and read these forums as compulsively as we do.

sooo ummm just do not buy the next Total war game or expansion....

But you WILL.....you, like me, wil buy ALL OF THEM!!!!!


So either you are a SUCKER.......


Ooooooor the game is actually worth what we all pay.


So take your pick

Sucker?
or
not?

[WhiskeyGhost]

How about this.

90% of the ppl that play do not even realize this is a problem..... until they read these forums.


In fact I bet 90% of the ppl that bought this game did not see ANY of these "game killing bugs" unless they were uber geeks like us that post and read these forums as compulsively as we do.

sooo ummm just do not buy the next Total war game or expansion....

But you WILL.....you, like me, wil buy ALL OF THEM!!!!!


So either you are a SUCKER.......


Ooooooor the game is actually worth what we all pay.


So take your pick

Sucker?
or
not?

No, i think the real issue is that we thought we were being served steak, but got a hamburger instead. Sure, a hamburger is good enough, but the point was that everyone who reads these kind of forums usually are the ones who observe that, yes, my steak is NOT a steak at all, but something less.

In other words, people who would bother to come into the forums aren't the only ones who notice these things, we are just the ones that tell the waiter we would like what we ordered, not what he brought us

[Callahan9119]

i dont know tyrac if thats a diatribe against me or not, but its something in the game i notice, alot.

like i said.. if you look back i said many wont notice it, but it confounds me greatly to see this happen "to a greater or lesser degree" as i said; and when its to the greater degree its the most obnoxious sight to see. as i said in the previous post, it happened to me in a totally different way with camel gunners and not infantry

either the way i play, normally using shock melee to charge, break, reform and attack new portions of the enemy line draws my attention to the fact this happens, or just the simple fact that it DOES happen to all units in all forms of combat.. and noticing the goings on of all individual units in combat my attention is drawn to it...to this i dont know, but i can like you assume most dont ever notice this.

most who are drawn to the chiv cav armies, or their equivalents dont notice this as much.

but i assume most of the people who play the game dont give a fiddlers fart about the pike problems, the guns problem or any of the other problems that other people complain about, maybe i'm just jaded...but this stuff bothers me