Intranetusa 16:44 06-19-2007
Real life picture of RTW Cataphracts!!!
Real
vs RTW
Nevermind.
Reverend Joe 17:45 06-19-2007
All righty. Can we see a real-life picture of an EB kataphract now?
Looks like a parade cataphract to me. Depends on what you call "real"...
Pharnakes 17:58 06-19-2007
I have to admit that I can't actualy see what is so bad it.
The "real" picture does not have horse armour. I must confess I first thought he meant EB cataphracts, but I see now it's RTW. So the camel cataphracts could actually be such in the game, it's been so long since I played vanilla I can't even remember if they were there.
Lol
NeoSpartan 18:56 06-19-2007
Perfect mAIOR!
That city in the background doesn't look completely "real" to me.
It looks like a painting. It probably a stage
Watchman 20:47 06-19-2007
Later on "cataphract" could also mean simply an armoured cavalryman, not necessarily on a barded horse. "Clibanarius" got equally vague pretty fast by what I know of it, although it usually signified heavier equipement.
Anyway, the problem with the vanilla RTW catas was that they were from something like very late Parthian or early Sassanid times, ie. nearly half a millenia out of date for RTW...
I'd peg the gear in the first pic of the OP to be essentially Migration Period or thereabouts chronology-wise; weren't helmets of that design popular around that time ?
atheotes 20:49 06-19-2007
Imperator 21:45 06-19-2007
So what exactly is the point of this thread? To suggest RTW was secretly really accurate? I think not. Even if the cataphracts DID look like that (which I doubt, since that picture looks pretty fishy to me) we can agree they weren't bright purple and were NOT ancient Rohirrim.
Pharnakes 21:54 06-19-2007
Were the cataphracts in vannila overpowered or something?
Watchman 21:58 06-19-2007
I remember wiping out the two or so Parthia starts with by luring them into the pikes of those cruddy levy phalangites and then just repeatedly charging their derrieres with FamiCav (the early-campaign light model too), so not really. The bow-and-mace BI Clibas were way nastier.
I agree those guys were my eastern nightmare. I could take hords easilly (AS
really I don't know why they sent 8 stacks to my ambush in a row). RTW were strong but you could get rid of them easilly (I prefered Urban cohorts with cretan archers armies)... But, in the hands of a skilled player they were deadly!
Cheers...
Krusader 22:31 06-19-2007
I've seen the RTW vanilla cataphract of a illustration done on Late Roman cataphracts in some triumph.
Ahh here it was:
NeoSpartan 00:19 06-20-2007
Originally Posted by Watchman:
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Anyway, the problem with the vanilla RTW catas was that they were from something like very late Parthian or early Sassanid times, ie. nearly half a millenia out of date for RTW...
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Now that explains it....
Beefy187 00:51 06-20-2007
i remember i used to have like 2 stacks of pure cataphract army as seleucids
smashed soo many Scipii armies in Africa
russia almighty 01:00 06-20-2007
Wolf your link leads directly to the main website , not the actual page.
strange. It was working before. I'll see what I can do.
Edit: Try it now. The address changed thats why the link wasn't working
russia almighty 01:12 06-20-2007
Speaking of vanilla katatank stories I have steam rolled even phalanx pikemen with a head on charge .
Lowenklee 01:56 06-20-2007
Well, ignoring the issue of it's accuracy, it's a beautiful picture. What city is that in the backround, is this from a film?
Reverend Joe 02:35 06-20-2007
Why the hell would you even bother putting someone that heavily armored on a completely unarmored horse?
"Well, I could aim for the freakin' tank, or I could aim for the soft pile of unarmored flesh he's riding on... Hmm, decisions, decisions..."
I haven't heard it put any better Reverend Gonzo ( chuckles )
thats a british abbot self propelled howitzer. not exactly a tank.it mounts a 105mm howitzer.
and what mAIOR posted is a german elephant tank destroyer.
sorry im a tankophile
I'm thinking of changing it from that to mAIOR posted. A panzer. And get away from me you pervert
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