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[Husar]

Im going to tread lightly, so dont take everything I say to harshly mate.

No offense taken, I usually wait for differing opinions, like I said somewhere else, I come here to learn as well.

1. Behave like normal people? So when the jews have a parade in the "holy city" is that normal?

As long as they don't run around half naked, yes. That's actually all I meant with normal in this case.

2. Who forced you? They didnt, the paper, news cast or message board you chose to view dispalyed this, thats your fault.

That's right to an extent, but the press tries their best to make me see it with posters and other ads everywhere. So indirectly they want to force me to see it. I thought that was the reason they want this to be in the press so that people see it? Maybe forcing isn't the right expression though, I give you that.

3. If you lived there Id make a concession on the your rights bit, that said I do believe this was challenged and the israli supreme court deemed the parade constitutional. Seems everyones rights were considered and upheld.

Most likely, sometimes I just add post-fillers I actually don't believe in myself, please forgive me.

Perhaps, but what would you do to make them go away exactly? And husar, hate is a strong concept.

Hate is indeed a strong concept and I don't really hate them anyway.
I just think they're completely overreacting and that there are less offensive ways to get acceptance, might take a bit longer but also keeps aggression levels of others lower.

I'll concede this one, with the cavaet that they do want you to talk about the issue. mission accomplished?

I've been thinking about gays before without their stupid parade and when I saw gays in the place I work out I came to the conclusion that I don't mind them being there and will treat them like anyone else. But they weren't dancing around half naked, that would certainly have lead me to a different conclusion.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Being Jewish isnt normal because its a choice, being homosexual inst a choice its a condition.

Your Jewish if your mother is Jewish. Its not a choice.

If the supreme court of the host country says they have the right, then yep, unless you prefer it be decided on a case by case basis by the local sherriff? Okay, we'll use the constitution for a paint by numbers then, hows rainbow sound?

SCOTUS has made many bad calls in the past. that dont make it right.

When you make absolute statements like this, with terms like deviant, and comparisson to beastiality you reveal what reads like fear, or at a minimum a closed mind. However I am hetrosexual myself, I dont encourage homosexuality, I just dont go out of my way to belittle segements of the population.

I have no fear. You want to screw a cow be my guest. it dont phase me in the least. But dont go around telling me its normal. Its not why you were given reproductive organs. Im not belittling anyone. Different strokes for different folks I always say.

[Odin]

Your Jewish if your mother is Jewish. Its not a choice.

Is it an ethnic group, or someone who practices Judaism? I say the later, but thats a whole other topic.

SCOTUS has made many bad calls in the past. that dont make it right.

No but it makes it legal.

I have no fear. You want to screw a cow be my guest. it dont phase me in the least. But dont go around telling me its normal. Its not why you were given reproductive organs. Im not belittling anyone. Different strokes for different folks I always say.

Okay Gawain, i wont tell you its being normal.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Is it an ethnic group, or someone who practices Judaism? I say the later, but thats a whole other topic.

Is there any doubt its an ethnic group? Does the fact that people from other nations have joined it change that?

No but it makes it legal.

But that doesnt refute my point that it may be wrong.

Okay Gawain, i wont tell you its being normal.

What?

Andres pretty much covers my thoughts on the matter.

[Odin]

Is there any doubt its an ethnic group? Does the fact that people from other nations have joined it change that?

Do they practice judaism?

But that doesnt refute my point that it may be wrong.

Who gets to decide that? You? God? Jews? Christians? Homosexuals?

Right and wrong is a concept not universally applied.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Do they practice judaism?

Who? One more time. If your mother is Jewish you are Jewish. Whether or not you practice Judaism is irrelevant.

Who gets to decide that? You? God? Jews? Christians? Homosexuals?

Right and wrong is a concept not universally applied.

Why of course me. No one else really matters do they?

[Odin]

Who?

Does the fact that people from other nations have joined it change that?

these people you mentioned in a prior post, did thier moms convert after they joined as well?

Why of course me. No one else really matters do they?

[Odin]

That's right to an extent, but the press tries their best to make me see it with posters and other ads everywhere. So indirectly they want to force me to see it. I thought that was the reason they want this to be in the press so that people see it? Maybe forcing isn't the right expression though, I give you that.

Yes they want you to see it, but you have to look.

I just think they're completely overreacting and that there are less offensive ways to get acceptance, might take a bit longer but also keeps aggression levels of others lower.

On this we agree.

[Andres]

I agree with Husar. It's not the fact that they are gay that is disturbing, but the way how they chose to express their gay-ness by running and dancing around half (and sometimes completely, unless you consider bodypaint = clothes) naked.

And as if that's not enough, they plan to do it in a holy city of all places.

In this case, it's disrespectful towards different important religions. It's bad taste and, considering the present political situation in the area involved, a sign of a complete lack of common sense.

[Odin]

I agree with Husar. It's not the fact that they are gay that is disturbing, but the way how they chose to express their gay-ness by running and dancing around half (and sometimes completely, unless you consider bodypaint = clothes) naked.

And as if that's not enough, they plan to do it in a holy city of all places.

In this case, it's disrespectful towards different important religions. It's bad taste and, considering the present political situation in the area involved, a sign of a complete lack of common sense.

I'm about done with this thread as i have given my 2 cents and made my points. Let me say in sentiment your right, but thier intent isnt to display normal behavior or be respectful, thier intent is to gain press.

these are very savvy people with a political adgenda, if you believe this as fact then its clear why they are in a percieved holy city.