"From Russia W/O Love", a Movie about life in the old CCCP

[Banquo's Ghost]

Its good that at least some russians realize the terrible society they created for themselves by going communist. To think how many of them died fighting as Stalins dogs... I bet it was hard making a tactical withdrawal against your own MGs.

Unnecessarily nasty and requires rebuttal. Whatever the faults of their leaders, the Russian people fought heroically against the brutal evil visited on them by the German invaders - who contrived some of the most utterly wicked acts on innocents ever seen because of their own leader's propaganda. Certainly the wickedness was reciprocated and spiralled into madness, but the Germans set the standards when they decided all Russians were sub-human and implemented that prejudice from the moment they crossed the border.

The heroism of ordinary Russians at the siege of Leningrad for example, when the invaders smashed all the extraordinary cultural icons at Tsarskoye Selo (acts of allegedly civilised people that even the revolutionaries didn't indulge in) and starved millions outshines anything the aggressive pawns of the Nazi regime achieved.

These people fought for their own way of life whatever faults it had. The people you admire so much sowed the wind, and deserved the whirlwind that followed them right into the heart of their darkness.

What is most pathetic is that they let it continue for so long. I guess when you live an environment as horrible as imperial russia, communist russia was somehow appealing?

And what's the excuse for Germany embracing the evil of Nazism? A bit of inflation and a bruised ego? How long would they have put up with National Socialism if the Allies hadn't stamped it out for them?

[Husar]

These people fought for their own way of life whatever faults it had. The people you admire so much sowed the wind, and deserved the whirlwind that followed them right into the heart of their darkness.

Very well said.

[PanzerJaeger]

Unnecessarily nasty and requires rebuttal. Whatever the faults of their leaders, the Russian people fought heroically against the brutal evil visited on them by the German invaders - who contrived some of the most utterly wicked acts on innocents ever seen because of their own leader's propaganda. Certainly the wickedness was reciprocated and spiralled into madness, but the Germans set the standards when they decided all Russians were sub-human and implemented that prejudice from the moment they crossed the border.

The heroism of ordinary Russians at the siege of Leningrad for example, when the invaders smashed all the extraordinary cultural icons at Tsarskoye Selo (acts of allegedly civilised people that even the revolutionaries didn't indulge in) and starved millions outshines anything the aggressive pawns of the Nazi regime achieved.

These people fought for their own way of life whatever faults it had. The people you admire so much sowed the wind, and deserved the whirlwind that followed them right into the heart of their darkness.



And what's the excuse for Germany embracing the evil of Nazism? A bit of inflation and a bruised ego? How long would they have put up with National Socialism if the Allies hadn't stamped it out for them?

Defending Russians by claiming they are slightly better than Nazis(which is debatable)... that says it all right there.

[Brenus]

“Defending Russians by claiming they are slightly better than Nazis (which is debatable)...”: That is the victory of Neo-Nazi. It is not debatable if you just study the roots of each ideology.
A Jew, a Gypsy, a Slav can’t survive Nazi Regime, based on racism. No even a vague chance…
Any citizen can survive a Communist Regime with bit of luck and no involvement in politic.
Those communist Regimes did kill, but so did the Western Capitalist & Democratic Countries…
France, England, USA, Spain, Portugal killed millions in the Cold War period, in the wave after WW2, decolonisation and Containment Wars. We use gas, starved populations to death (Vietnam, Biaffra (Nigeria), just as ex.), and deported populations in so-called Safe-villages (Vietnam, Algeria) as did the good Uncle Joe. And operation Condor was NOT a good democratic conduct…

Sorry, have to go to work... To be Continued...

[Marshal Murat]

How can you compare 2 evils?
Communist Russia was not the best place to live, but neither was a Nazi Germany. Both were brutal ideologies, the Germans only reviled because they lost. What can I say. I do not support the Holocaust or the eugenics projects that the Germans carried out, but I don't support the kulak liquidation and the imprisonment of thousands in gulags. It's choosing between evils, and I favor neither.

Those communist Regimes did kill, but so did the Western Capitalist & Democratic Countries…
France, England, USA, Spain, Portugal killed millions in the Cold War period, in the wave after WW2, decolonisation and Containment Wars.

How does this support or negate any argument? Two wrongs don't make it right or wrong. Does this mean that the U.S.S.R. wasn't so bad because NATO did the same? No. It means that we were both bad, but I would rather die free than live in Communism.

In closing....
If the Nazi's are pummeled for the Holocaust, then I want the Communist pummeled for killing or moving people who's only crime was being prosperous and living on the land their parents had lived on.

[Strike For The South]

The Nazis invaded and were bent on conquering Russia. My grandfather was one of the few "Americans" (IE not new slavic immgrants who obvuisly cant be trusted) who spoke good Russian and thus worked with them throught the war he had nothing but great things to say about the common Russian who he said was fighting 2 oppresions he was also a huge critic of the US though becuase right after the war they told him to interrogate the Russian defectors for info. He said the US could be as bad as the riegemes we fought but we were just better at hiding it.

[CrossLOPER]

How does this support or negate any argument? Two wrongs don't make it right or wrong. Does this mean that the U.S.S.R. wasn't so bad because NATO did the same? No. It means that we were both bad, but I would rather die free than live in Communism.

It means no one can really take a higher moral ground.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Maybe so many Russian look back on the USSR with "warm nostalgia" because the ones that wouldn't had been purged.

[PanzerJaeger]

Maybe so many Russian look back on the USSR with "warm nostalgia" because the ones that wouldn't had been purged.

Are you drunk?