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[HolyCross of Jerusalem]

Discuss and sent any Strategy for Winning MTW here! (u can include Historical Battles and Campaigns)


I've some strategy...
-KILLING THE PAPACY:
1.Invade and defeat the Papacy.
2.Once the Siege is over retreat to Milan/Venetia/Genoa or Overseas Territory (Leave Rome,Tuscany,Papal State, and Naples)
3.Let Bandits uprise
4.Wait for the Papacy to re-emerge
5.Once they finished with rebels, attack them and defeat them
6.Do from no.2 again.

-VENOM ATTACK:
1.Rise a huge Army
2.Attack your Enemy at ALL Territory which is bordered with your territory.
3.If there are still some territory hold by the enmies, just attack it, leave sieged enemy territory undefended. (This will make their good/bad generals have "Eager to retreat" or even "Retreat oftenly" trait)
4.Attack and Attack until their Territories are sieged.

-ARTILLERY FORCE (Only for attacking):
1.have your artillerry deployed just at the front of your battle line
2.bombard the enemy until some of them rout or their formation is broken
3.When this happened, advance your main force. When the main force are nearing the enemy/in combat, halt your artillery.

[doctrellor]

-KILLING THE PAPACY:
1.Invade and defeat the Papacy.
2.Once the Siege is over retreat to Milan/Venetia/Genoa or Overseas Territory (Leave Rome,Tuscany,Papal State, and Naples)
3.Let Bandits uprise
4.Wait for the Papacy to re-emerge
5.Once they finished with rebels, attack them and defeat them
6.Do from no.2 again.
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I was playing as the rebels last night for fun, and wiped out the Papacy with 1 simple stack and a 3* gen...

I razed EVERYTHING and so when the Pope came back, his lands were nothing more than smoking ruins...lol I then left the Papacy to be conquered by the French who were on a rampage art that time..lol

[Noir]

Welcome to the org. and the Main Hall HolyCross of Jerusalem

That's quite some hints and tips you've got there.

A few comments from me:

1. It may be useful to separate strategy (campaign map play) and tactics (battle map play).

2. While your hints are undeniably succesful in the game, their success hinges on deficiencies of the game (for example the one with the Papacy eradicates it for the remainder of the game if repeated). Myself i find that playing without using such single disadvantages of the game might result in a more challenging campaign - even if its lost - and so more fun.

Also could you post more of your stretegies in a sense of broader plans in order to create/respond/take advantage of situations, for example: "A good strategy is to go after the richest provinces" or "a good strategy is to have naval superiority ensuring diplomatically the existance of trade partners" or "a good strategy is to create colonies in far off provinces to minimise the upkeep of your ships (say by launching Crusades)" or "a good strategy is to fight only one war at the time" etc.

Many Thanks

Noir

[Gimli]

As far as game-winning starategy goes, if you are in the Medditerrenean Sea, CONTROL IT!!! This allows for quick movement of armies from your developed bases to the front. One strategy that I have enjoyed is, rather than eliminating an enemy faction, leave them with a single, weak province (such as Norway). They will soon be unable to build anything as they gain heirs (and thus, expensive Royal Guard type units). This prevents them from "Faction Reappering" you right when you think you are in control! My personal favorite strategy is to form an alliance with a weak neighbor and then wait for him to be attacked (oh, for the record, I am generally Orthodox...) and then I can defend his lands and get a "free war" out of it! I don't have to start the war with the enemy of my ally and I get a nice buffer zone between the enemy and my lands. Overall strategy? Avoid France and Germany because their interior is void of coastline and thus SLOW to move through... AND always attack the richest places first! (Greece, Flanders, Constantinople, Egypt...) Happy winning!

[macsen rufus]

I have a specific strategy for dealing with His Infallible Meddlesomeness, the Pope, which I call the "Pope on a Rope" strategy:

In my Genoese (XL) campaign, I'm keeping the pope as a tame poodle. Destroyed his faction once, waited for the re-emergence in Rome and Papal States, defended Rome (and kept it) and abandonned Papal states, which I had stripped of everything but the fort and 20% farmland (I have a "rule" to never destroy farmland, and leaving the fort was part of the cunning plan....). Second year after the re-emergence I attacked Papal States once more, ensuring the Pope survived with so few men they could fit into the fort. Kept him under siege til he had approx 200 men left, then abandonned the province. This gave me an auto ceasefire, and the Pope was left with a useless army that cost more in upkeep than his territory could supply in income. He can never build ANYTHING else ever again Not even a border fort, which means I can afford to leave a Grand Inquisitor and Assassin (now up to 6*) and spy on permanent duty in the Papal States. Any trouble with excommunication, well, I go off and do my Catholic bashing for a while and when it's convenient I knock off the Pope with my 6* killer and get re-commed and carry on Crusading as if nothing had happened.

You can't keep the Pope out, but you can keep him down

In this particular campaign it worked out perfectly, and the Pope was the least trouble ever. Since then I've always tried to do this whenever I play a Catholic faction and my empire reaches that part of the world. Another aspect I didn't mention before was that the high-valour spy also keeps the loyalty in his province low, so there's no way he can afford to send ANY troops out on the attack, either.

[Betito]

You know, for ages, i struggled to win Jaffa, and once i got almost all Saladin's cavarly to rout, but i had no cav to chase them, so they rallied and crushed me.

So, with this being the winning things thread, does anyone ahve a replay of a victory in Jaffa? I'd really appreciate it