Quote Originally Posted by nameless
Disagree.

I've never had to pay money or give cities to AI for treaties, that's a hunk load of crap. That's for people who don't have patience or do not know how to "break" the AI.

I've had cases where I've annihilated one of the AI's best armies on the field and immediatetly they sued for peace which I accepted and we've been holding it for at least 50+ turns.
I don't know what game you're playing then. I'm using no mods, version 1.2, and I have NEVER had an AI player offer Ceasefire without also demanding something like 200k florins at the same time. Thats once in a full moon, they almost never ask for a ceasefire and utterly turn their noses up at the idea.

I've always found that whenever war is declared , either because they blockade my ports or send in an army to one of my cities, I can do nothing but invade and destroy them. I have played through the long campaign about 5 times now, and I have NEVER managed to end a war diplomatically. I've birbed my enemies in war time to try and just get the relations up, I've tried annihilating all their units except a small garrison, I have tried offering them back their capitals... but every single attempt offering a ceasefire is 'Very Demanding' and it takes gigantic bribes for it to succeed. Even when they are on the brink of getting annihilated, I can't get them to ceasefire let alone vassalage.