Sengoku Jidai, Japanese interactive History

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

::cough:: Sorry for the double post, but I'd like to point out that Motoharu Kikkawa (Mori, now) was one of the most accomplished warriors of the Sengoku period. Toyosada Yamana wasn't exactly known for his fighting ability. The late Mori Lord will watch this duel from beyond the grave with pleasure.

Really? We will see about that,will we?

[Kagemusha]

So Kage, am I in control of the Hojo starting next turn?

Yes.You will get your starting information in few hours, when the rest of the others will also get their situation reports, il try to cover to you where Hojo is standing right now.

[Revolting Friendship]

From Ôtomo Sorin to Miyoshi Chokei:

Let it suffice to know this:
Anyone who acts justly will have the might of clan Ôtomo behind him
Anyone who acts dispicably will have the might of clan Ôtomo against him

As you know, I have already found reason to destroy Asakura Yoshikage, a murderer of defenseless and innocent people, his own for that matter. As long as I draw breath he will find an untiring enemy in me, and I will not rest until he's been rightly destroyed. Anyone who align with him is my enemy, and anyone who opposes him is my friend.

You send your own daughter to marry this man? What are you thinking? I will stand for letting her, and her escort out of Inabayama without harm, if you order them to return home. Do not make the mistake to support Asakura Yoshikage, he has brought enough men with him in his ruin.

As far as I am concerned, you personally have much to attune for, your past mistakes as Kanrei, to issue orders to persecute christians, to support men for no purpose but your own gain, regardless of their alligience, while abandoning faithful supporters of the administration that you serve.

Ask yourself, why should I stand up for and support a shogunate that handles its subject in such a manner? I will support what's good for this country, not what's good for individuals, for no other reason than empty ranks and titles. A title should be properly honored before it means anything at all,

Ôtomo Sorin

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Kage,

About the deadline question, I think it should be, say, On the weekend this time around, no later then next Monday? gives about 1 week or so to do things here?

Also Kage, Change my username on the list to the current one I have now. Save the spot for Imagawa, My brother likes to play as them, so I have him drop down and sign up :-).

[AggonyDuck]

Open letter from the Kanrei Miyoshi Chokei to Otomo Sorin



Otomo Sorin, I like your words. But they are certainly not for the Asakura clan. As far as I could rememeber there were two other clans who preferred to avoid honourable battle in the plains of Owari and to pillage undefended castle called Ichijo-no-dani causing the death of defenseless women and children. I would like to add that certain clans do not stand on their words. I expected at least a vague comment for the passing of Mori Motonari, Kyushu Tandai. After all he sent them a help during the siege of Ise. But of course, your help is more important now. Blindess and being deaf towards your allies and your honour is a good feature for the coalition of Oda, Asai and Otomo.

Our war against the Asakura has little to do with honour. He struck me without remorse at a weak spot and I was able to return the favour due to the stupidity of the Asakura lord. If there had actually been a way to fight this war in Owari successfully I would had done that. As to the casualties among the Asakura family, they are unfortunate victims of this cruel war started by Asakura himself as is Shibata Katsuie and other Oda retainers. I did not want this war, but I'll damn well fight it to its bloody end. As to you Miyoshi, you should had acted sooner to successfully pursue your ambitions.

Oda Nobunaga

[Ravie]

Mori Motonari was a traitorous swine! You yourself saw the Letter from himself saying he would support me against you, his passing is a blessing upon Japan! His sons will reclaim the clans honour and fight to the end if needed. You had a choice of sides in this war Miyoshi and your lack of decisiveness moved you to choose the wrong side, and make a fatal decision with your actions in doing so. Asakura started this war, i offered him the chance to bck down and be allowed to retreat to Echizen, he declined and will die for his stupidity. Why would i not allow my ally Otomo a chance for some revenge upon the persecutor of his faith in the process? As for not attacking Owari? A lesson in war for you Miyoshi "Never interupt your enemy when hes making a mistake".


Asai Nagamasa

[Seign Thelas]

I have this feeling there should've been more clans in Kyushu.

Ito, Shoni, Aso, Akizuki, Arima, Ryuzoji, Kimotsuki.

I think Otomo and Shimazu had it too easy.

[Kagemusha]

I have this feeling there should've been more clans in Kyushu.

Ito, Shoni, Aso, Akizuki, Arima, Ryuzoji, Kimotsuki.

I think Otomo and Shimazu had it too easy.

Read the early chapters. Ito, Sagara, Akizuki and Ryozoji were destroyed. Before the alliance between Shimazu and Otomo, it was Otomo that was almost destroyed.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

I would like to take Imagawa, if possible.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

When is the Deadline Kage? I'm going to do my Decsions and send them Saturday, Still need answers from my allies though

[Revolting Friendship]

Map of current situation:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

And here's the first map I did, for reference to see what has happened in the past 2 years.
Time is passing quite slowly, we may feel like not much has happened, but for this much to actually happen during 2 years. In reality it's quite much:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Seign Thelas]

Was the info sent yet? I didn't get anything.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

From Lord Yamana Toyosada:


I, Yamana Toyosada, Must withdraw my duel attempt against Mori Motoharu. Some may call me the coward for this, but I am not. I just have a big mouth, and should think things though before I speak. Your Father is the coward, not you. While I may hate Mori Clan, At least the Sons Of The Retired Lord actually stayed on the mainland, while your father ran off. I would Duel Him instead, but he is dead. I need not prove your worth, since you would fight along your men, and I will fight along my men to retake Tssyumo Castle if need be.


However, Maybe in the Future, Once I deal with Ukita, I will actually decide to go though this, if Mori Clan is still around.



Lord Yamana Toyosada

[Prince Cobra]

My suggestions for deadline:

Certainly after 9th of June. I have difficult exams and my mind is busy with other things. And the sith reports are not ready yet.

The best possible scenario (for me): after 20th June when they are over.

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To Nagamasa and Oda from Miyoshi:

I'll reply you, brats soon. But your are the last people I need to tell me what to do.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

After 20th Of June is Somewhat Long to wait, isn't it? I like to see 1 more chapter get up in June and not have to wait untill July to get another one.


How about the 12th Kage?

[Seign Thelas]

Should I be expecting my information anytime soon?

[Kagemusha]

You and the other eastern Clans should get their information tomorrow evening. Im sorry for the delay, but im leaving to a cruise boat to Tallin in about 5 hours and once i return tomorrow evening, il send the remaining info pm´s.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

You and the other eastern Clans should get their information tomorrow evening. Im sorry for the delay, but im leaving to a cruise boat to Tallin in about 5 hours and once i return tomorrow evening, il send the remaining info pm´s.

You're going on a cruise and didn't invite your IH-mates???

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

OOC:
Thanks Ravie.

Also I've done some research and compiled a list of Ôtomo vassals, made some corrections to governor-ship etc.:

Ôtomo Sorin 33
Ôtomo Daimyô
Governor of Bungo

Tachibana Dôsetsu 50
aka Hetsugi Akitsura
Head of council
Governor of Buzen

Tawara Chikataka 36**
Senior general
Governor of Chikuzen

Nabeshima Naoshige* 26
Temporary governor of Hizen

Narimatsu Nobukatsu* 23
Head of bodyguard

Senior generals
Yoshioka Nagamasu 47**
Egame Taketane* 31**

Junior generals
Takahashi Jyoun 22**
Yoshihiro Akitada 19**
Eriguchi Nobutsune* 26**

Court members
Ryûzôji Naganobu 24**
Ryûzôji Nobuchika 29**

Underage
Ôtomo Yoshimune(1558) 5
Ôtomo heir
Ôtomo Chikaie(1561) 2

Ryûzôji Masaie(1556) 7
Ryûzôji heir
Tawara Takatada(1556)*** 7
Tawara heir
Tachibana Tsukihara(1550)*** 13
Tachibana heir
Usuki Akichika(1552)*** 11
Harada Nobutane(1560) 3

Dead
Usuki Akihaya 39**
Senior general
Seppuko, 1563


*Formerly Ryûzôji vassal
**Real age unknown
***Fictional character


Deeds

Ôtomo Sorin
Led the winning attack against the Ryûzôji at Yanagawa, spring 1561
Won the siege against Akizuki Tanezane without blodsheed, spring 1562

Yoshioka Nagamasu
Led the winning ambush against superior Amako and Yamana forces in Bizen, summer 1562
Defeated by superior Amako forces at Gassan Toda, autumn 1562

Yoshihiro Akitada
Partook in the ambush in Bizen, fought in single combat for the first time, summer 1562
Partook in the battle at Gassan Toda, collected 1 head and recieved 2 wounds before withdrawing, autumn 1562

Tawara Chikataka
Led a successful mission to transport 5000 koku to the Asai, winter 1562-63

Tachibana Dôsetsu
Assisted in the victory over Ryûzôji at Yanagawa, spring 1561
Struggled to save the fleet during the disaster in Shimonoseki Strait, winter 1562

Usuki Akihaya
Commanded the fleet during the disaster in Shimonoseki Strait, winter 1562
Comitted seppuko, januari 1563

Takahashi Jyoun
Commanded the teppô contingents at Yanagawa, collected 3 heads in the pursuit, spring 1561

Narimatsu Nobukatsu
Collected 5 helmeted heads at Yanagawa, recieving 7 wounds, spring 1561

Nabeshima Naoshige
Led the fighting retreat to Yanagawa castle, spring 1561

I know I'm quaoting a Old Post, but I like to ask. How did you put together this nice list, and find out all the names here?

[Revolting Friendship]

I know I'm quaoting a Old Post, but I like to ask. How did you put together this nice list, and find out all the names here?

I've been making research. Entirely on the internet for that matter so you could do the same ;)
samurai-archives.com is your best shot for finding the info you'll need.

[Seign Thelas]

Decisions, I'd like to make them before the deadline. Info, I need it.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I'm not going to be on .Org untill Monday, so give me some time to do Decsions if Deadlines gets posted here (I have my brother keep me posted).



Thank You

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

When is the deadline Kage? Has everyone recived their Reports to? I know some people (Including my brother) never got their's yet. We been moving so lately

[woad&fangs]

I haven't yet gotten a report.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I've been making research. Entirely on the internet for that matter so you could do the same ;)
samurai-archives.com is your best shot for finding the info you'll need.

That's cool. I found some stuff about Yamana Clan There :-).

How did you get the Fictornial Chracters?

[Revolting Friendship]

How did you get the Fictornial Chracters?

I whipped them together by myself. Something that is good to know is that the first name of these guys were usually formed by parts inherited by others, like the father. Then the next part in the name could be bestowed on them by some authority figure like the Daimyô of the clan.

So let's say Usuki Akihaya gets a son. And he choses to give part of the sons name from his own father, let's say his name was Nagamasu. So He gets Naga- from his grandfather. And then Sôrin, whoms actual name was Yoshishige. He bestows on Akihaya's son the part Yoshi- from his own name(which was considered a great honor btw). Usuki Akihaya's son gets the name Nagayoshi. I suppose not all combinations are legal, Naga-yoshi would work obviously because I've seen that name around. Aki-naga might also work, and Yoshi-haya. Naga-aki doesn't sound right but I could be wrong. ;) You'll just have to feel your way. Knowing only so much about japanese names.

This is just a game tho' and it doesn't really matter that much, as long as it seems believable.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I whipped them together by myself. Something that is good to know is that the first name of these guys were usually formed by parts inherited by others, like the father. Then the next part in the name could be bestowed on them by some authority figure like the Daimyô of the clan.

So let's say Usuki Akihaya gets a son. And he choses to give part of the sons name from his own father, let's say his name was Nagamasu. So He gets Naga- from his grandfather. And then Sôrin, whoms actual name was Yoshishige. He bestows on Akihaya's son the part Yoshi- from his own name(which was considered a great honor btw). Usuki Akihaya's son gets the name Nagayoshi. I suppose not all combinations are legal, Naga-yoshi would work obviously because I've seen that name around. Aki-naga might also work, and Yoshi-haya. Naga-aki doesn't sound right but I could be wrong. ;) You'll just have to feel your way. Knowing only so much about japanese names.

This is just a game tho' and it doesn't really matter that much, as long as it seems believable.

Thanks Revolting, This Will Prove Usefull

[Seign Thelas]

I whipped them together by myself. Something that is good to know is that the first name of these guys were usually formed by parts inherited by others, like the father. Then the next part in the name could be bestowed on them by some authority figure like the Daimyô of the clan.

So let's say Usuki Akihaya gets a son. And he choses to give part of the sons name from his own father, let's say his name was Nagamasu. So He gets Naga- from his grandfather. And then Sôrin, whoms actual name was Yoshishige. He bestows on Akihaya's son the part Yoshi- from his own name(which was considered a great honor btw). Usuki Akihaya's son gets the name Nagayoshi. I suppose not all combinations are legal, Naga-yoshi would work obviously because I've seen that name around. Aki-naga might also work, and Yoshi-haya. Naga-aki doesn't sound right but I could be wrong. ;) You'll just have to feel your way. Knowing only so much about japanese names.

This is just a game tho' and it doesn't really matter that much, as long as it seems believable.

Nagaaki would work as a name. There's plenty of names with a repeated vowel. For example:

Kamiizumi Nobutsuna
Uesugi Tomooki (Note, this is said Tomo-Oki, not TomUki.)
Ashikaga Haruuji
Maeda Toshiie (Toshi-EE-AY)

Then there's even names with 3 vowels in a row, all with different sounds.

Kakizaki Kageie (Ka-gay-EE-AY)
Shibata Katsuie

Alot of these are said quickly so the sounds blend together. In the case of Shibata Katsuie, it would sound like Katsu-YAY. But if you slow the word down, every vowel can be heard.

The thing with American (English) is we have a lot of different things going on in the language with silent letters and tricky groups of letters that make different sounds in different words, I find with most languages that aren't American (English) you say every letter, and every letter has a concrete sound.

I say American because we really have split off from the English spoken in the UK and Australia. It's just like Dutch and German, very similar, but very different.

And on a related not: If you look at the line of Tokugawa Shoguns you'll notice something very interesting about most of their given names, the same goes for the Ashikaga Shoguns.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Not To be Annoy you Kage, But When will the deadline be set up? Lets not do another 2 1/2 month wait again :D

[Prince Cobra]

The Kanrei announces he cancels the alliance with the Asai and declares war on the Oda. These are his wise words to the claans of Oda, Asai and Otomo.


To Oda Nobunaga

You acted in dishonour and dishonourable your end will be. You disobeyed the Shogun and you should only blame yourself for the misfortunes of your clan. The only advise I can give you is to save what has left of your honour and to commit seppuku. I have nothing against your clan and the lifes of your relatives will be spared. These are my terms and I consider them generous for a rebel.

To Asai Nagamasa

Once again you are wrong, my dear Nagamasa. I had no choice but to fight against you. I admit you did your best to break our alliance. You allied with a man without honour and you betrayed your allies. Asakura even sent you men to defend your lands but you attacked him. Then you claimed you are still his friend as nothing has happened and soon after you killed his family. Mori Motonari helped you but once you felt he is no longer useful you abandoned him. Your attitude towards me was no different: you needed me to do your dishonourable acts and you did not hesitate to promise me everything you could including to become my vassal. You are a fool Asai Nagamasa, a young fool. How could you be so stupid to think that I, the kanrei of Nippon will close my eyes for your attrocities and join you? Or that I will abandon the man who helped me with troops during the siege of Takeyama and sacrificed his secure rear because of me, namely Asakura Yoshikage? Or maybe you relied on the fact your father recognized me as Kanrei? Your father deserved the trust of his allies but you are different. It was you who chose the wrong side and you should pay for it one way or another.

To Otomo Sorin

I have no intentions to betray my loyal ally Asakura Yoshikage. Furthermore, he will be awarded for his loyalty and help in critical moments with that marriage that will strengthen the position of our clans and will ease our efforts to restore the peace in Kinai. If you want to find people who betray their allies I am the wrong person to observe.

About Ito: Any words could not bring him back and I see no reason to comment the issue. I simply had no means to interfere in Kyushu. The only thing I could do is to start to reconsider the policy of the Shogunate towards Kyushu in order such situations be avoided and a dilaogue with the Kyushu clans be made possible.