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    OOC:

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    This is the map updated for the current situation. As you can see this is an alternative projection. I was going to use this one for a secondary Sengoku IH, in case Kage was to drop his game. But since he hasn't, happily, I converted it to run with his IH instead.

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    This is a province map for quicker reference, with the province names to go directly on the area concerned. In addition, there is information about the names of greater regions in Japan, and the name of some islands and other areas. This too was going to be used in the alternate Sengoku IH

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    And lastly, as an added bonus, the faction situation of the game I was going to run(still work in progress), starting 1550 sharp. I put a lot of work into this one, and althought the domain borders are mostly guesswork, the aproximate extent of each clan is fairly accurate. Some minor ones might not be featured, I based this mostly on the information in www.samurai-archives.com

    Some notes of interest:
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    White names: are vassals of the domain they are written in. Some clans having hordes of vassals while others don't relies on wether their masters were successful enough to go down in history, and they themselves distinguish themselves during their rise. In reality, most clans had hosts of vassals.

    Shimazu: is at this point in civil war between two branches of the family. The renowned Iriki-in family sided with the losing branch, but were pardoned and made themselves famous by their valiant service during the Sekigahara campaign, 50 years later.

    Oda: is also suffering internal conflict between the Kiyosu branch(Nobunaga) to the south and the Iwakura branch to the north. Through even this, the unlikely character that Nobunaga was, struggled his way up to the top. It's worth to note that officially, the Oda were themselves vassals of the Shiba clan, however they had held no true power since the early sengoku.

    Mizuno and Miyake: are worth to note as sharing provinces with the Oda and the Matsudaira(later Tokugawa) respectively, and competing there for domination. This area was much splintered, like central Kinai and many other places, and further illustrates the bewildering level of division Japan was in at the time.

    Ikko-Ikki: -controlled areas exists in Northern Ise(bordering the Oda), in Izumi and Kaga. The communities in Izumi are strongly supported by the Suzuki, and northern Ise is in great turmoil.

    Ôuchi and the Shôni: are just about to be overthrown by their own vassals, Shôni by the Ryûzôji in 1553, Ôuchi by the Sue in 1551. Althought the Shôni were to hold out for some years, both clans were internally weakened at this point, and even under Sue Harukata, the formerly mighty Ôuchi collapsed in struggles with their neighbours.

    Iga: is still under official control at the hands of the Niki clan, even while the province is slipping out of their grasp.

    Nagao: is the clan of Nagao Terutora, the soon to be Uesugi Kenshin, who holds no heriditary affiliation with the actual Uesugi, but is rather their vassal. Even so, he has by now eclipsed them in strenght.

    Uesugi: of the Yamanouchi branch are hard pressed in their war against the Hôjô, with the Ogigayatsu branch having already fallen. In 1551, their last stronghold of Hirai will fall, and their daimyo will flee to his northern vassal Nagao and take refuge with them, for the price of adopting Terutora as his heir.

    Murakami: are the inland pirates of Japan, situated along the southern coast of chûgoku and on its many islands. Even into the mid 1560's, these areas were badly splintered between many small and long forgotten clans, only to be fully unified following the Amako defeat at the hands of the Môri(1566), finally bringing a strong central power to the area.

    Takeda: are currently busting their way into shinano province under Takeda Harunobu(later Shingen) at break-neck speed. Many local clans surrender and become vassals, while others, notably Murakami and Ogasawara, put up fierce resistance. Already by 1552, all notable opposition within shinano would've be swept aside, and total subjegation would be checked until 1564 only through the intervention by Uesugi Kenshin.
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    Great work Tomte.Both artistically and thoroughly researched. Now i feel bit sad about all your work, but maybe you could run that setting next after this one has been concluded.Id love to be just another player so very much also, instead of host.

    EDT: Also everyone has now received their situation informations, so get playing. I have taken over Date since the player has been inactive for over 3 seasons. There are quite few interesting clans available so new players are more then wellcome.
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    The Oda army in Echizen is assembled on a field outside Ichijo-dani. Oda Nobunaga, accompanied by his hatamoto and dressed in full battle equipment, with the exception of a missing face mask, rides to the center of the army. The hatamoto splits and each rider takes position in front of the different contigents. They take out a parchment and wait for the order. After a moment Nobunaga draws his sword and a wave of rising banners moves from the center towards the flanks of the assembled army. As an expecting silence falls on the assembled army Nobunaga, in a clear and stern tone, begins his speech. The hatamoto follow suit and read the speech from the parchment to the other contigents.

    'As you may have heard, Kaga has been lost to Asakura Yoshikage and his men, who scurried away from us and instead attacked the weak garrison in Otamo Kobo. Even graver reports have recently arrived. It seems that while the Tokugawa supported us in siege efforts in Mino, a large Imagawa-Takeda army successfully captured Okazaki in an assault. Even our reports of victory in Iga by our allies fail to offer me joy on this sad day.

    I am saddened by these losses suffered by our allies, especially due to my responsibility for them. But fortunately our allies are still breathing and fighting our enemies, and they need us to be stronger than ever. We can not afford to lose heart and falter at this dark hour. We can not rest until the men who wish our ruin are dead and our ancestral lands are again under our protection. This will demand of you the utmost effort and sacrifice, because our enemies are plenty and they will stop at nothing to see us dead. But I know that you will fulfill and exceed the demands that this situation will ask of you.

    I am honoured to be in command of such a fine band of warriors. You have time and time again impressed me with your discipline and proved yourself against our foes. Your ferocity, courage and prowess are unrivalled in Japan and our enemies know this. Why do you think the Kanrei, commanding the largest army in Japan, is still mustering his forces instead of already marching to crush our 'little rebellion'? He knows that he needs to exhaust you with numbers, because in a fair fight with even odds they cannot defeat you. I will use all my power to ensure that the odds are never too much in their favour and that we will never engage them in a fair fight. You, my men, are the greatest treasure any Lord could ever possess and I will not squander you, because only together can we defeat our opponents and achieve the peace and security that we deserve!'


    As Nobunaga raised his sword high a spontaneous, spirited roar bellowed by the army assembled in front of him. He turned his horse and started riding at a canter towards Ichijo-dani and the hatamato followed suit at a gallop, until they had caught up with their lord and slowed down to a canter as well. They rode to the inner courtyard of the castle and dismounted, where the young daimyo, with a grim and determined expression, withdrew to his quarters with his nearest advisors to plan for the coming campaign.
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    No use bandying pointless words now. Total war is what it will be.

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    A public statement from the Lord Amako to the Clan Otomo

    My dear Lord Otomo

    The lords of western Nippon have consulted and this is our offer.

    We are only interested in bringing peace to our lands and do not seek furthur bloodshed. We are happy to allow your army to return to your lands in return for the payment of 30 ships from your navy and a commitment from you not to return to our lands with hostile intent. This is our once and only offer and is not negotiable. Refuse and we will slaughter every last man left on our lands.

    Thus speaks the Lord Amako
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    I hope Lord Otomo will take the proper deicision and will pull out his men from Kinai. I think this is important condition for starting the negotiations.

    I also think the terms of Lord Amako are too generous. 30 ships tribute are too few.
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    OOC: As it seems most players have read their situation reports. Id like for every player to post whether they are still playing, so there wont be any unfortunate events caused by inactivity of a player.

    Other then that. If you want to make my life easier. As you have noticed. I send each player a kind of chart that shows the essential things for their clan. If everybody would be so kind. They should fill the changes made in that chart and send it to me with their decisions, with general explanation of what they are doing. This would lessen my work as the host lot more. In worst cases now. I have to dig the answers for a single player from multitude of pm´s, which doesnt do very good to my pm space either.
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    This negotiation is off. I will have peace with no allies of Miyoshi Chokei. Even if it costs me everything, I refuse to abandon my friends.

    Ôtomo Sorin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolting Friendship View Post
    This negotiation is off. I will have peace with no allies of Miyoshi Chokei. Even if it costs me everything, I refuse to abandon my friends.

    Ôtomo Sorin

    Since your resources are wasted in fruitless attempts to broaden your territory you are determined to find allies ready to bring down the alliance of the Four that stood loyal to the Shogun. You should know when everything is lost and to step back accepting the compromise you are offered. Alas, it seems you have lost your mind. I give you last chance and to ask the Shogun and the Allies of the Four for being pardoned. If not, you will see how this war truly costs you everything.
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    Sorin sits casually in his audience hall, going through diplomatic correspondance. As he recieves the letter from the Kanrei, his eyes light up with glee. With an expression bursting of amusement, he starts to read:
    .....mhm... Heh....'The four who stood loyal to the shogun'?
    ...
    WAHAHAHAHA, HAHAHAAAHAHAAAHA
    Letter from the Ôtomo to Miyoshi Daimyô:

    I will let tomorrow speak for itself,
    Ôtomo Sorin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolting Friendship View Post
    Sorin sits casually in his audience hall, going through diplomatic correspondance. As he recieves the letter from the Kanrei, his eyes light up with glee. With an expression bursting of amusement, he starts to read:

    Letter from the Ôtomo to Miyoshi Daimyô:

    I will let tomorrow speak for itself,
    Ôtomo Sorin
    How do you dare to laugh at the Chugoku clans??! Well, it seems the madness have truly darkened your mind!

    Sign,
    Miyoshi Chokei, Kanrei
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    Not their clans but your fancy assumptions. I do not blame the Amako for not trusting me, I have given him little reason to do so, this I realize. I understand why the clans of Chûgoku have joined forces, but I also understand that it has little or nothing to do with loyalty to the shogun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolting Friendship View Post
    This negotiation is off. I will have peace with no allies of Miyoshi Chokei. Even if it costs me everything, I refuse to abandon my friends.

    Ôtomo Sorin


    Then die then, Otomo Sorin. You refuse to accpect our generous deal, then you can die then. I be pleased to see your head brought to me and my allies. I am very loyal to the Shogun, and I don't plan on rebelling aganist him, like you and your dog allies.



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    In more private circumstances, I have heard of all kinds of loyalties and lack thereof from you, Toyosada. We shall see who dies and who doesn't, this war is not over yet.

    Ôtomo Sorin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolting Friendship View Post
    In more private circumstances, I have heard of all kinds of loyalties and lack thereof from you, Toyosada. We shall see who dies and who doesn't, this war is not over yet.

    Ôtomo Sorin


    From who, your dog troops? Yes, I don't backstab enemies. Besides, we all know about you. Yes, We will see who dies. But even if I die, I promise you that you and your clan will be destroyed by the Yamana Clan and our allies. This war is over when it's over.



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    The incoherent blabberings of Toyosada, when can we ever get enough of them? I long for that day.
    Tell me, how exactly do you backstab an enemy? If someone is indeed your enemy, doesn't it rather count as a strategem?

    No need to answer.

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    It seems from my mail recipients that everyone else other then Tiberius of the drake has read their situation reports. So i would like to hear from the following clans whether they are still playing or not, because i havent received any pm´s or noticed them posting in the thread after the last chapter. Following players, please post your status by posting in this thread: Asakura,Tokugawa, Uesugi and Satomi.

    Also for the current players. If you can please market the interactive, because the following major clans are under my control and i have no desire to effect the game bit more then minimum. Probably any of these clans could tip the situation on their areas of Japan if you look at the map and each is playable if a player appears. The clans are: Mogami, Ashina, Tsutsui and Ukita.
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    The Lord Amako will be on holiday from today until a week monday so sadly he will not be able to respond to your messages until then.
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    Asai is definately still playing. We've already started our planning for next season.
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    I am still here, just like to steer clear of the pointless chatting of the other daiymo's, I back everything Lord Otomo and Lord Oda have said, with steel and men!
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    Suit yourself then dog


    My brother is still playing as Imagawa (I have him post here and confirm anyhow .

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    I will return Sunday fyi!

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    Lord Imigawa is still plotting for his dominance in this IH.

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    Still in.

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    Still in, Kage, just thinking over what I'll do thoroughly this time. And still supporting the Shogun!!

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    As few of the players are in more or less mortal danger in the game. You should add to your decisions, if you are engaged in decesive battle, what is your stance if you loose. Do you want to fight to the end, die fighting or be executed, commit seppuku if you loose or try to run from the battle to save yourselves, or try and submit to the winner and become his retainer.

    I am very happy that so many of you still have not lost interest after my long inactivity. I would still like to hear from, Asakura, Tokugawa, Uesugi and Satomi, whether they are still playing.
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    Ôtomo Sorin always fight to the end, neither surrender nor capture is an option. The daimyô of the Ôtomo would rather kill himself with a spoon than be a trophy prisoner.
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    Everybody, please wellcome two new players. patdj, who will take control of Shimazu after next chapter and Herakleitos, who will take control of Date at the same time. Wellcome guys.
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    Welcome guys.
    And Kage. I think that, for the sake of keeping the game balanced and new players unbiased, it would be kind of better if you recruited for the game. Unless, players would start to invite siblings and friends just to build strong alliances. I don't think that's quite fair to the other players, looking forward to an interesting experience; Exclusive to what goes on in the game, and not ruled by who can invite the most buddies to back them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolting Friendship View Post
    Welcome guys.
    And Kage. I think that, for the sake of keeping the game balanced and new players unbiased, it would be kind of better if you recruited for the game. Unless, players would start to invite siblings and friends just to build strong alliances. I don't think that's quite fair to the other players, looking forward to an interesting experience; Exclusive to what goes on in the game, and not ruled by who can invite the most buddies to back them up.

    imho
    Ive had some pm conversations about this and so far players have been able to follow the spirit of the rules quite well. I am sure that if an player that will play only to benefit another players agenda, without any personal ambitions, appears. It will surface rather quickly.
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