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    Default Winning First

    I've noticed time after time especially when I'm trying to go Chivalry for once that no matter what my general will always get Winning First Trait. What triggers this? I make sure I don't hit my units with friendly fire, and I release all prisoners. Anyone give some input for me?

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    Default Re: Winning First

    I don´t know if I got all of them, but here are several triggers...



    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3_Dread_fighting
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 8
    and not Trait BattleChivalry > 0

    Affects BattleDread 1 Chance 50
    Affects Bloodthirsty 1 Chance 10

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3_Chivalry_fighting
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition GeneralNumKillsInBattle > 8
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 50

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Chivalry1_defensivewin
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition not WasAttacker
    and IsGeneral
    and BattleOdds < 0.8
    and GeneralFoughtInCombat
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Chivalry_hardoddswin
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
    and WonBattle
    and BattleOdds <= 0.5
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0
    and GeneralFoughtInCombat

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 66

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Chivalry_religioncatholic
    WhenToTest GeneralAssaultsGeneral

    Condition CharacterReligion catholic
    and TargetReligion islam
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 33

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Chivalry_religionorthodox
    WhenToTest GeneralAssaultsGeneral

    Condition CharacterReligion orthodox
    and TargetReligion islam
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 33

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Chivalry_religionislam
    WhenToTest GeneralAssaultsGeneral

    Condition CharacterReligion islam
    and TargetReligion catholic
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 66

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Chivalry1_notchaserouters
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= average
    and PercentageEnemyKilled < 20
    and IsGeneral
    and BattleOdds < 0.95
    and not Trait BattleDread > 0

    Affects BattleChivalry 1 Chance 33

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Dread_PickingOnWeak
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition WasAttacker
    and WonBattle
    and BattleOdds > 1.5
    and PercentageEnemyKilled > 50
    and not Trait BattleChivalry > 0

    Affects BattleDread 1 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Dread_TotalAnnihilation
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= crushing
    and PercentageEnemyKilled > 70
    and GeneralFoughtInCombat
    and IsGeneral
    and BattleOdds < 0.95
    and not Trait BattleChivalry > 0

    Affects BattleDread 2 Chance 100

    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle3Dread_Let_Them_Go
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
    and WonBattle
    and BattleSuccess >= average
    and PercentageEnemyKilled < 20
    and not GeneralFoughtInCombat
    and IsGeneral
    and BattleOdds < 0.95
    and not Trait BattleChivalry > 0

    Affects BattleDread -1 Chance 100

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    Village special needs person Member Kobal2fr's Avatar
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    Default Re: Winning First

    Most often it's attacking with vastly superior odds. Anything over 1.5, and you're dreadfull.
    Anything wrong ? Blame it on me. I'm the French.

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    Default Re: Winning First

    So if I just moved some men out of the stack before I attacked would that work?

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    Default Re: Winning First

    Some of the triggers are really ridiculous like if your general kills more than 8 units there is instantly a chance I believe and some other things. You can find it I think in one of the new guides for building the perfect general that have been posted recently
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    Default Re: Winning First

    Yes. Anything to bring the odds down. The thing is, odds are not only based on numbers, but also unit strength. Your general alone is very heavy on them, followed by heavy cav, then heavy foot, then foot, then missiles. For some reason, Peasant Archers and the like are almost invisible to the odds, even in LTC where they are very dangerous. *shrug* take advantage of it if you can, I say

    As an example, the only way to get 1:1 odds on York as the English early on is to attack it with Rufus alone, with maybe 1-2 units of archers.

    Or you could just throw all that down the drain and welcome your new Dread overlord
    Anything wrong ? Blame it on me. I'm the French.

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