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    Default Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    Does anyone have a list of which vanilla factions became which EB factions?
    I tried to use the add_money cheat to give Pontos & Hayasdan some more money to resist the Seleucids, but it seems I need the original factions name for it to work.

    I already had a look at the text files, but the only one I could figure out is Egypt (vanilla) became Qarthadast in EB.

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    seleucid - Romani
    greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
    thrace - Epeiros
    macedon - Makedonia
    numidia - Ptolemaioi
    romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
    romans_brutii - Baktria
    romans_scipii - Hayasdan
    carthage - Pontos
    pontus - Saka Rauka
    armenia - Sauromatae
    parthia - Pahlava
    dacia - Getai
    germans - Sweboz
    scythia - Arverni
    gauls - Aedui
    britons - Casse
    spain - Lusotannan
    egypt - Qarthadastim

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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    Hi.

    Edit: OK you got the answer, while I was writing. TA you're to fast for me ;-)


    I can give you the list, but since I'm in a hurry I recommend you to look in the EB/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat file. I've changed my mind, this doesn't take so long:

    Vanilla --> EB

    scythia --> Arverni
    macedon --> Macedon
    numidia --> Ptolemaioi
    romans_julii --> Arche Seleukideia
    egypt --> Karthadast
    parthia --> Pahlava
    carthage --> Pontos
    germans --> Sweboz
    britons --> Casse
    romans_scipii --> Hayasdan
    dacia --> Getai
    greek_cities --> Koinon Hellenon
    romans_brutii --> Baktria
    armenia --> Sauromatae
    spain --> Lusotannan
    thrace --> Epeiros
    seleucide --> Romani
    gauls --> Aedui


    Saba is simply saba. I don't remember but I'll guess they must be SPQR in vanilla. Doesn't matter.
    Last edited by Eminos; 06-28-2007 at 14:37.

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    Out of random curiosity, why were the factions who were moved from their original slots (e.g. Romani, Arche Seleuca, Armenia/Hayasdan) moved?

    I figure it was something about making it all work, but how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
    seleucid - Romani
    greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
    thrace - Epeiros
    macedon - Makedonia
    numidia - Ptolemaioi
    romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
    romans_brutii - Baktria
    romans_scipii - Hayasdan
    carthage - Pontos
    pontus - Saka Rauka
    armenia - Sauromatae
    parthia - Pahlava
    dacia - Getai
    germans - Sweboz
    scythia - Arverni
    gauls - Aedui
    britons - Casse
    spain - Lusotannan
    egypt - Qarthadastim

    hum... interesting

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    Before RTW 1.5 you couldn't mod cultures. Everything was moved around as a sort of compromise. Also, the Seleukid, Hayasdan, and Baktrian relationship that was wanted to be simulated could only really be done using the three Roman factions together. Hence why everything looks odd.

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    Yeah, factions were given faction names due to non-moddable cultures.

    These were the cultures:

    egypt - Qarthadastim
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    seleucid - Romani
    greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
    thrace - Epeiros
    macedon - Makedonia
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    numidia - Ptolemaioi
    carthage - Pontos
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    romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
    romans_brutii - Baktria
    romans_scipii - Hayasdan
    -
    pontus - Saka Rauka
    armenia - Sauromatae
    parthia - Pahlava
    -
    dacia - Getai
    germans - Sweboz
    scythia - Arverni
    gauls - Aedui
    britons - Casse
    spain - Lusotannan
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    I had been wondering why Seleucids and Romani were switched around .

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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
    seleucid - Romani
    greek_cities - Koinon Hellenon
    thrace - Epeiros
    macedon - Makedonia
    numidia - Ptolemaioi
    romans_julii - Arche Seleukeia
    romans_brutii - Baktria
    romans_scipii - Hayasdan
    carthage - Pontos
    pontus - Saka Rauka
    armenia - Sauromatae
    parthia - Pahlava
    dacia - Getai
    germans - Sweboz
    scythia - Arverni
    gauls - Aedui
    britons - Casse
    spain - Lusotannan
    egypt - Qarthadastim
    Interesting.Always wondered why Bactrian generals would sometimes say phrases I heard playing vanilla RTW (like "Imperator").Though I would like to know where Saba came from.Was there just an empty faction space avaible?

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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    The Senate Faction slot I believe?
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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    Yes, it was the Senate slot. It was renamed so no hidden coding for the Senate would do weird things.


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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    that makes sense. It would be quite annoying if Saba suddenly started spamming full stacks and built huge cities with money that couldnt be gotten from anything humanly possible...(if you didnt notice i hated the senate in the vanilla )
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    Hate to necro a dead thread, but I keep getting "Faction type not recognized", even when I type in the vanilla names.

    Any ideas why this might be the case? And is there any other way to do it?

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    Default Re: Vanilla factions -> which EB factions?

    Did you use the correct syntax?

    add_money romans_scipii, 20000

    The comma is important.
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