Imperial Diet IV

[Privateerkev]

I will second edict 11.1!

Eyes Duke Arnold

And I am preparing a CA that I am sure Duke Arnold will like and I will be sure to put his name on it as a second. *sarcasm*

[AussieGiant]

Leaning forward on the Austrian benches Arnold's intensity is raised a few notches.

Go ahead Jan...we're not finished, you fairy sucking PONCE!!

[Privateerkev]

Jan says with a big smile

So, you'll second my CA when I'm done writing it my dear Duke? Good, I'll be sure to send you a copy.

[TevashSzat]

I shall propose Edict 11.2 The four dukes and King Salier shall meet and discuss the events Siegfried's ascencion to the throne as well as any questions of any legitamacy. Afterwards a vote shall be cast on whether he will be allowed to retain his throne

Do not be hasty in rejecting this saying that only us Swabians have opposed Salier, but rather let a discussion procede and let the whole chain of events discussed clearly. Should we find it satisfactory, us Swabians shall recognize the legitamacy of the claim, but merely destroying any attempt for this and this issue may have to resolved with drastic actions.

Edict: OOC: Sorry, got the names mixed up there

[Stig]

Surely you mean Siegfried, herr Scherer.
And since my father is on holiday I as Steward take his place.

Secondly I do not second your edict, not only the Dukes should vote on something important as this. Next to that as I said, 3 houses already support Siegfried.

[TevashSzat]

As I repeat again, do not ignore my proposal simply because there is no way that the Kaiser would be forced to step down, but let it serve as a place of discussion. I have little hope that he will be forced to step down, but I still wish for this to occur so we can get the facts straight about his ascendancy. Do it if you will for the complacency of Swabia. Perhaps if a suitable discussion occurs, then Hans and Wolfgang may be able to accept the new rule.

I am sure that everyone does not wish for half of Swabia ready to go against any proposal of the Kaiser which would amount to a very frustrating reign. Am I right?

[Stig]

But what arguments can you bring against Siegfried?
Surely you have seen Kaiser Jobst's will, he did appoint him Heir. I agree it is very strange, I mean if you choose a Kastillien, then why Siegfried? But we have to live with it, I'm sure my little brother has everything to become a good emperor, tho I think he might need some guidance, he's still young.

[AussieGiant]

I second edict 11.2.

For the sake of complete loyalty and to ensure no room for "interpretation" or lingering doubt I believe this process to be necessary. I am therefore in favour of an expedited investigation.

Arnold sits to being writing

Raising his heads at Ansehelm's words Arnold continues

The very points you talk about are what need to be entirely confirmed Ansehelm.

There can be no debate. Because there is, then therefore I believe we should conduct this review as soon as possible.

[Stuperman]

I will also second Edict 11.2.

It seems to me that any Kaiser who can't control members of his own house...Gerhard glares at Jan...and was appointed under such suspect conditions should ensure he has the formal support of all the houses.

[Privateerkev]

Jan looks at Duke Gerhard

Control me my dear Duke?

There was nothing to control. It was I who was attacked by another member of this Diet. And it was I who was hunted down near my home in Outremer. All I have done is protect myself. Why do you fight God's will? God chose the Kaiser. Kaiser Jobst saw that which is why he gave Emperor Siegfried preferential treatment. Do you think it was coincidence that Kaiser Jobst picked Kaiser Siegfried to accompany him with the Imperial Army? Everyone needs to wake up and see what is in front of them.

[AussieGiant]

Smiling ruefully back at Jan

I'll be sure to have my dog wipe it's arse on the proposal.

Taking a more considered approach to his next sentence

Do you really have such a problem with me ensuring in such a desperate situation that those troops could never threaten the Reich again?

I could probably understand you point of view if I had exterminated the population of Budapest after I retook it, or even sacked it. For the record I did neither but simply reoccupied it.

As for you going all La La over a few Hungarian's being killed, then perhaps you can swing yourself by the Hungarian capital and have tea with the King there and suggest he doesn't come invading the %$^&ing Reich!!

If you can get him to agree with that then we all just dandy....you BIG DANDY.

Looking down at a report Arnold continues

Ohh, will you look at that everyone.

Arnold waves a piece of paper in on of his Black Mail fists

The Imperial spy Ermolt is reporting ANOTHER Hungarian armyu is threatening Austria's borders AGAIN!!

Are you truly that naive Jan??

[Privateerkev]

Jan turns to Arnold

My dear good Duke,

If your having trouble with being attacked, then maybe we should look at why we have put ourselves in such indefensible situations. We do quite fine in the Outremer without murdering our prisoners.

Jan turns to Scherer

My Duke,

The Kaiser is God's chosen leader for the Reich. There is nothing more to discuss. It is God that chooses our Kaiser. Emperor Siegfried is our Kaiser. People need to learn to live with it. I will not support an edict that debates that which can not be debated.

[Stig]

I know they have to be confirmed Arnold, but have you read the last letter written by our last emperor?

[Stig]

I propose Edict 11.3:
This Edict will be a complete copy of Edict 10.4
An expeditionary force will march on Moscow, via Russian - not Polish - provinces (Riga, Novogorod etc). It must engage any enemy field armies it meets along the way, but only besiege Moscow. It will consist of a single stack and will not be reinforced except from locally recruited mercenaries. Moscow will be sacked and abandoned, although no buildings will be destroyed.



The Expeditionary Force is finished, Thorn is safe, and little else is needed. The Crusade can always be asked to return since it's not an official one. Thorn is secured, there's no reason why this mission can not begin, it will harm no-one but the people taking part, and they are willing to give their lives to take Moscow.