I wish we had free healthcare like the Brits...

[Devastatin Dave]

Nah...
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...cle2730423.ece
Man, I think I'll stick with paying for my own insurance!!!!

[Papewaio]

What you want to pay for your own cell?

[PanzerJaeger]

Just another example highlighting the fact that islam is the main problem, not poverty, lack of assimilation or any of the other excuses the islamic terrorist apologists peddle.

[Fragony]

This makes this more serious then the metro bombings, minus victims of course. After all metro bombing were kids gone nuts but this is something different. And what panzer said, if poverty and terrorism were related they would have had their own boat at the gay pride by now.

[Idaho]

Nah...
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...cle2730423.ece
Man, I think I'll stick with paying for my own insurance!!!!

You really have excelled yourself this time Dave. Usually your posts are 'challenged' at best, but the correllation between universal health care and terror attacks has open up a whole new universe of nonsense.

[Watchman]

Just another example highlighting the fact that islam is the main problem, not poverty, lack of assimilation or any of the other excuses the islamic terrorist apologists peddle.

So what was the "main problem" with all the homegrown terrorists before these n00b Islamofascists then ? Christianity ? Sad childhood ?

[InsaneApache]

Good grief I agree with Idaho.

[Fragony]

So what was the "main problem" with all the homegrown terrorists before these n00b Islamofascists then ? Christianity ? Sad childhood ?

Reading Das Kapital. Movements where there is absolutily no room for critism naturally lead to idelogical betting contests. See RAF, cultural revolution, and now political islam.

[Watchman]

R-i-i-i-i-ght. And why is it then that those kinds of movements only appear in certain times and places and not others ?

[Fragony]

R-i-i-i-i-ght. And why is it then that those kinds of movements only appear in certain times and places and not others ?

Well some people will feel too special for their times, and every time has a different tailor.

[Watchman]

Is that Dutch for "not the foggiest" ?

[Fragony]

Is that Dutch for "not the foggiest" ?

No, that is what you would call sarcasm.

Let me try again. It's human nature, some people feel a bit too special. Groups comfirm that they are special. They all want to be the most special one, and since there is no room for ideological compromise, this manifests itselve in radicalisation. Different groups, same thing.

[Watchman]

Bah. Then can you try explaining why exactly is it that Muslims living in Europe, which they have been doing by the tens of thousands and in some cases for centuries, have only started radicalizing within... gee whiz, last ten years or so ?

Or why the "new left" militancy of the Sixties and Seventies - RAF and the merry rest - only happened in some countries, while in others the youth radicals were swiftly assimilated into the political system ? I can quarantee you they read the exact same Marxist texts, doubtless with a fair bit of Mao and Lenin thrown in too...

[Fragony]

Bah. Then can you try explaining why exactly is it that Muslims living in Europe, which they have been doing by the tens of thousands and in some cases for centuries, have only started radicalizing within... gee whiz, last ten years or so ?

Political islam is relativily new, starting with the muslim brotherhood in Egypt in the fifties, that is why. These peaches are gaining influence here, more and more. That why you see a rise in radicalisation.

Or why the "new left" militancy of the Sixties and Seventies - RAF and the merry rest - only happened in some countries, while in others the youth radicals were swiftly assimilated into the political system ? I can quarantee you they read the exact same Marxist texts, doubtless with a fair bit of Mao and Lenin thrown in too...

I think these 'antifacists' had more history to kick at, accellerating the process.

[Watchman]

How come it's suddenly political Islam that's the problem ? Wasn't it supposed to be the religion itself at some point ?

[Fragony]

How come it's suddenly political Islam that's the problem ? Wasn't it supposed to be the religion itself at some point ?

Yes, because islam is extremily uncomprimising, see, now we made a full circle.

coffee?

[Tribesman]

Well on first impressions the opening post would appear to be gibberish , but on further examination it does raise two important questions .
So Dave is your condition treatable and does your insurance cover it ?

[Slyspy]

I fail to see Dave's point, though obviously he found it rather amusing.

[PanzerJaeger]

Are you two idiots or just so rigidly cynical you cant even see a joke when its patently obvious?

Edit: Refering to Idaho and Tribes... and "idiots" was way too strong.. hehe. :P

[Watchman]

Yes, because islam is extremily uncomprimising, see, now we made a full circle.

coffee?

So why is the militancy a recent phenomenom then if it's supposed to be a quality inherent to the faith ?

Sir, your explanation is found wanting. I also brew my own coffee, thank you.

[Tribesman]

Are you two idiots or just so rigidly cynical you cant even see a joke when its patently obvious?

Well perhaps on your planet jokes are something completely different , that much is patently obvious .

[Fragony]

So why is the militancy a recent phenomenom then if it's supposed to be a quality inherent to the faith ?

Militancy isn't, terrorism is. Just gave you one whopper of a book recommendation, how about you roll a few from it.

[Watchman]

Sorry, but that don't cut it. Argue for yourself. And if that "terrorism is" bit refers to the kind of revisionist garbage Gawain was peddling some time ago, don't even try it.

[AntiochusIII]

Nah...
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...cle2730423.ece
Man, I think I'll stick with paying for my own insurance!!!!

I don't get it.

How is capturing terrorists has anything to do with healthcare?

[Tribesman]

And if that "terrorism is" bit refers to the kind of revisionist garbage Gawain was peddling some time ago, don't even try it.

Oh come on that was really funny , imagine quoting from a site that is linked to militant religeous terrorists thats complaining about other militant religeous terrorists .
Such a feat requires either a really good sense of humour or a real low level of intelligence .

[Gregoshi]

How is capturing terrorists has anything to do with healthcare?

The patient is suffering from a severe separation of the joint between the subject and funny bone. Treatment for this injury boils down to two choices: throwing gobs of money at insurance companies to repair the damage or let the doctors of a free healthcare system blow up the patient.

[PanzerJaeger]

Well perhaps on your planet jokes are something completely different , that much is patently obvious .

Theres snarky and then theres just plain obnoxious...

Its quite clear to me at least that Dave was not trying to make a serious point about socialized health care, and a little funny that a couple of people called his intelligence into question whilst not realizing the comment wasn't meant to be a real point.

[AntiochusIII]

Its quite clear to me at least that Dave was not trying to make a serious point about socialized health care, and a little funny that a couple of people called his intelligence into question whilst not realizing the comment wasn't meant to be a real point.

A political joke sort of need at least a semblance of a point to be funny, and I really don't get this one...

Gregoshi: Your example is unacceptable!

[HoreTore]

I'm wondering when that handsome lumberjack comes wandering by with his very big axe...

[InsaneApache]

Nah mate he's too busy chillin' in the frontroom.