Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
Well-meaning official policies aren't worth a badly drawn four-dollar bill if the practical reality is prejudice and ostracization in daily life. People only learn to be with people if they are with people, and that goes for immigrants in a new land just as much as growing kids. Poor sods already have their platters full dealing with culture shock, language barrier and trying to get a life started; getting welcomed with thinly veiled (if not open) hostility doesn't exactly encourage anyone to try to "fit in" so to speak, but instead encourages them to turn inwards towards their own "peer-group". Unemployement (which already plagues the natives who don't have the additional handicaps immigrants and "foreigners" have to deal with on the job market), poverty and ghettoisation only heighten the effects, doubly so as the natives tend to have a bad tendency to avoid moving into the same neighbourhoods. Throw in the extra problems of the younger generations and post-11/9 discrimination, and you've got one damn toxic soup ready for serving.
I think you are assuming all the would be terrorists are of the brown shirt category... I think some are more educated and deadly and what I term the black shirts... such as the average education level of the 9/11 bomber, Osama himself (hardly dirt poor and uneducated) ...Surgeons are not on the whole poorly educated either, or destined to have a poor bank account either. So we can't just say it is poverty that is doing it as a lot of the terrorists aren't poor. Also some of them are married and have children too so its not like they don't have something better to liver for.

And if unemployment is the reason for some why didn't we see the whole of the north of England have an uprising with the massive unemployment when the steel industry collapsed.

Nor can you blame immigration when some of the guys have only recently turned up and by looks of it solely for one thing, to kill other people in the name of some meme suite.

At some point personal responsibility has to be taken for ones actions.