Another RTW bug...

**TruePraetorian** · 07-05-2007, 00:16

Yeah i've tried doing that too. i re-installed rome but it still does it, only about every 4-5 battles and i noticed a trend with archer axuillia, whenever i have them it tends to happen.i've tried ungrouping them but of course that is very confusing when trying to move formations..il manage thanks for the help.

Since we are on the subject (the subject i started

) i was wondering if there is something wrong with my hoplites, also. whenever i am sieging a city and start advancing through it, my hoplites tend to pull out their swords instead of stay in hoplite formation, any help there? It mostly happens with the rear row of hoplites (in which i mean the rear rows of a column formation, starting at the 2nd one back)

Thanks

**Omanes Alexandrapolites** · 07-05-2007, 07:05

Hi TruePretorian,
I don't think some of your issues, possibly including the hoplite problem, are technically speaking bugs. There is a line in the EDU file which, I think, effects a unit's ability to stay in any formation when moving around. However, I'm not quite sure if it means it's own formation or it's positioning after being moved. Sadly, you'll need a modders clarification for that. Hope this helps, sorry about my uncertainty, cheers!

**Aradan** · 07-05-2007, 10:43

No, the 'training' tag affects the tidiness of the unit formation, not the ability to hold it while excuting tasks. Plus units have it to trained or highly_trained (best).

You haven't messed with descr_formations_ai.txt or descr-formations.txt, have you? Seems very unlikely that they would cause such problems, since it's just one formation that affetc the player's army and only when it's deployed, but just in case... Also, you could consider downloading Sinuhet's or DV's formation packs, apart from making the game much more enjoyable they will perhaps alleviate this issue too.

The secondary weapon issue is a known one, you'll experience it not only during assaults but also on open fields, for example when you order your spearmen (not in phalanx) to charge cavalry; they'll draw their swords (sec) to do it.

**TruePraetorian** · 07-05-2007, 18:57

Oh well, guess ill just have to play with it..thanks both of you for the help

Ill try that formations mod.

**PapaNasty** · 07-12-2007, 02:23

Thats happened to me a few times.

Normally how I avoid it is, at the very start, group units together how I want them to be, then select ALL my units (even if they are not in a group) and use the formation "straight single line" button. After that, i deploy my units how I want them. After the battle has started, I can select all units again and move them as one, and they stay in formation.

Hope this helps, I dunno if its what you or anyone else does, but I normally find my units move into that straight line from the formations I set them to, if i don't use this method.