Settlements: File Format Investigations

**KnightErrant** · 07-08-2007, 05:30

Haven't had a chance to digest the information so I'm
also a little vague on what they mean by occlusion.
Re code blocks versus html block let me try that to see
if one works better than the other.

Code wrappers:

Code:

serialization::archive
3 4 4 4
264 0
267 0 0 0
2 0 184.550750732 0
40 0 -7.09150409698 1.21208238602 -2.87348890305

Trying html wrappers:

HTML Code:

serialization::archive
3 4 4 4
264 0
267 0 0 0
2 0 184.550750732 0
40 0 -7.09150409698 1.21208238602 -2.87348890305

Both looked ok in preview so I'll post and see how it looks.

Edit: Naw, it's still messed up either way. Am I the only one
who can't put tags around code that work?

Edit the second: Tried over at TWCenter and code tags work
ok there. Could someone try it here and if no go, reboot the
servers? Just a thought.

**alpaca** · 07-08-2007, 10:03

Hmm that's weird alright. It could have to do with the wiki thing; I'll ask Tosa what's up when I next see him.

Edit: Hmm

Code:

serialization::archive
3 4 4 4
264 0
267 0 0 0
2 0 184.550750732 0
40 0 -7.09150409698 1.21208238602 -2.87348890305

The problem seems to be particular to this thread... Might want to open another one lol

**KnightErrant** · 07-09-2007, 05:15

@Alpaca,
Thanks for the test I'll try here and if still borked try a new thread.

Doing a code block:

Code:

serialization::archive
3 4 4 4
264 0
267 0 0 0
2 0 184.550750732 0
40 0 -7.09150409698 1.21208238602 -2.87348890305

Edit: Looked OK, I'll log out and come back and see.
.

Edit the second: Naw, same thing, linefeeds are gone.

**SigniferOne** · 07-26-2007, 01:56

Holy cow, I didn't realize KE you were already on settlements! Please don't think your work is unneeded! I've been away from the TW scene a little bit, if the animations and model importing already got finished, then the settlements are the last frontier. You don't understand, if it were possible for me to bring over Roman buildings into the M2 ground engine (with its impassable terrain and gorgeous texturing)...

**KnightErrant** · 07-27-2007, 05:18

Hi SignifierOne,

I haven't given up on settlements; it's just that this is like the mesh
format times 91 (the number of independent meshes I've seen so far
in just the village world model.) The village.world file is 3.9 Mbytes
and I'm at 3.85 Mbytes which sounds like I'm almost done except that
the meshes seem to be over and there are a bunch of strings here.
Maybe a few more days then its like, ok, now I've read it, what now?

As a first cut, maybe just something that lets a user mod an existing
settlement (have to come up with new terminology, the format seems
to define complexes of multiple structures) but not add new ones.
I.e. store all the granny strings I can't make heads or tails of in a
template file and then recreate the .world file with modified meshes.

Really ugly, though, save a template and then write out 91 .ms3d
meshes for every independent village model. Still haven't even thought
about what to do with the lighting information. Present for every mesh
but can't be stored or manipulated in a .ms3d file.

Oh well, if it was easy, it wouldn't be fun!

Just going to try a quick posting experiment, if this doesn't work I'll
start over in a new thread like alpaca suggested when I get to the
end of the .world file:

Code:

serialization::archive
3 4 4 4
264 0
267 0 0 0
2 0 184.550750732 0
40 0 -7.09150409698 1.21208238602 -2.87348890305

KE

Edit: Still no line feeds, I'll start a new thread when I've got something.

**alpaca** · 07-29-2007, 14:24

Doesn't Milkshape support any lighting info?

**Andromachus Theodoulos** · 07-30-2007, 02:34

Keep up the exceptional work KE. I agree with S1, if I can bring over the many greek and roman buildings as well as make new ones, that would be awesome.

Keep it up and don't give up, we are depending on your hard work and your genius.

Take care,

AT