diplomacy or lack of and stubborness of gauls.

[noosh]

Hi all, I just discovered the mod and I have to say I love it.

But I have had a couple of problems, one mainly as the Romans and another in all of my games.

1. The Gauls are way too stubborn. Even when I reduce them to just 1-2 cities they never, ever accept a ceasefire, much less a protectorate. I'd like to turn to conquering Carthage/the Greeks rather than keep chasing down their last cities/keeping massive occupation troops.

2. Alliance betrayals. This I dont understand. In my roman game, the Germans were my allies, then as I'm about to conquer the last of the gauls they suddenly invade and besiege a number of cities in Italy! And as Carthage, I happily unified all of Spain except the one rebel city the Lusitanians told me not too and while I'm facing a Roman invasion in the East they Lustianians suddenly back stab me.

Is this just the way RTW Ai is programmed ? And so should my first move be to conquer my own allies since their betrayal often comes at most inconvenient moments...

[AntiochusIII]

RTW AI Diplomacy is pretty...dysfunctional to say the least. It lives up to its "Total War" motto a little too much. The EB FAQ states that you'd get a slightly more stable and reasonable AI if money's involved -- for example, giving them a 100 denarii per turn tribute for a long, long period of time. But I never bothered as I prefer to smash any idiots stupid enough to try and take me down, so I can't say for sure it'll work.

Otherwise if you share a border with anyone it's a guaranteed war.

The "We'll never surrender" phenomenon is not exclusive to the Celts. Some people resort to the console command "force_diplomacy" to get the AI to accept the peace deal, but I think you need to download something first to do that in EB...

[Ravenic]

It's just the RTW Ai, can't be helped really.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

The diplomacy is completely hardcoded and a headache for everyone.

At least in M2TW, a completely crushed nation will negotiate. EB2 may have some nice diplomatic opertunities.

[Ravenic]

Heh...at least we can say we're prompt.

[Ice]

I feel your pain. I ended up destroying the Guals because they wouldn't leave me alone. So I do that and then the Germans out of nowhere attack me even though I've been feeding them money. I pretty much said screw it and quit.

[Shifty_GMH]

Could always use the Force Diplomacy minimod. Found here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80763

It is a nice little tool to force those stubborn factions into submitting instead of just exterminating them outright. Won't keep them from attacking you, but can temporarily end wars.