Pensioner beaten and jailed for not tending lawn
Jeepers - lucky they didn't check her guttering - she'd have ended up at X-Ray.
Pensioner beaten and jailed for not tending lawn
Jeepers - lucky they didn't check her guttering - she'd have ended up at X-Ray.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
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It's something I have heard reports of and seen footage of a few times with regard to US officials of any sort.
It seems like once you give someone a uniform in the US they see themselves as masters rather than servants and demand deference. I recall the story about the academic crossing the road and being assaulted by the plain clothes policeman who he refused to give his ID to. I also recall a story about a British journalist being interrogated at immigration control for hours because he forgot to call the official 'sir'.
Perhaps this is also connected to the abuses that american soldiers inflict on civillians in Iraq and Afghanistan. Something to do with the protection and status offered by a uniform gives them rights over others? Perhaps a throwback to the slave-overseer culture that the US was founded upon. I'd be interested in others ideas and experiences.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
That's taking it a bit far, just an idiot. Ever had dealings with the french police? They bite let me tell you.
I saw some report about trying to make a complaint in a US police department, that wasn't very nice either. People were either thrown out, scared away with harsh words or told that no such complaint papers were there. Probably not like that everywhere, but some of them seem to be good at getting no complaints after they screwed up.
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Originally Posted by Idaho
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There is so much wrong with that, its not even worth getting into. Needless to say, you're reading a lot into this.
The story itself - or at least what's presented in the article - is a little hard to swallow.
An old lady doesn't tend her yard and the city sends on ordinance officer to warn her about keeping it up to city standards. Shes a bit uncooperative so he takes out his cuffs and bitch slaps her across the face.
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Sheesh - if they saw MY lawn, I'd be on death row.
People in uniforms getting a little above themselves is not solely a US problem, it happens everywhere, but this does really take the biscuit![]()
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Do you mean french police is impolite, brutal and stupid? Check a french slang dictionnary: bourres, cognes, vaches, condés... I never had to deal with them (cautiously avoiding it for thirty-two years now) and I'm quite proud of it.Originally Posted by Fragony
"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
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I guess someone has it in for the mormons. Or rather older mormon ladies.Ms Perry, who says she has never had a run-in with police in the past, has been offered help by local church leaders to clean up her garden
Wasn't the entire Salt Lake valley a desert when the LDS first arrived there? They tended and tilled it until it became what it is today. I guess it is dishonouring the pioneers to let your garden return to the desert it once was.
What is the chance of both the cop and the lady being LDS. Isn't Orem about 90% LDS?
Well done promoting church values of peace and love in such a fashion.![]()
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Orem Utah is following "the plan" being used increasingly out west here to obtain county, state and federal money for local projects/neighborhood improvement - namely grass-roots neighborhood organizations.
Orem has 21 "Neighborhoods in Action" each vying for pieces of the upper-level gov't funding pie. What they have to do, is:
1. Think up a name for themselves
2. Start a Neighborhood Watch program
3. Elect a neighborhood 'board'
4. Apply for money.
Pro's: get better reaction on public-works projects/problems like potholes, street-signs, traffic signals; better police response times; area beautification money; etc...
Cons: some money goes to silly projects; that 'better police response' gets blended with 'area beautification' efforts (e.g. the neighborhood passes an ordinance to keep grass to 3 inches or less; police become obliged to enforce the ordinance - even if it's not city-wide; 'area Beautification' committee head sees gramma's overgrown yard, calls Neighborhood Watch, who call the cops - and bad things happen).
Speaking of the desert > fertile greenbelt, neighboring state Arizona is getting good at encouraging (and in some 'Neighborhoods in Action', directing) desert-friendly yards vs water-sucking green grass lawns.
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to quote an anoying (but surprisingly relevant in this issue )pop song I heard on the radio just now...
"this **** is bananas!"
how the hell is it anybody else´s business how you care (or decide not to care) for your garden?![]()
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
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I don't know about Portugal, but here and in many countries there are local byelaws and/or national planning laws that restrict what one can or cannot do with one's garden. Planting tree species that grow to enormous heights and over-shadow one's neighbours is one such common prohibition, allowing refuse to fester and create a health hazard and haven for rats might be another. Many residential communities have local agreements to ensure that gardens are neat and tidy.Originally Posted by Ronin
Peculiar local ordinances, confused old ladies and aggressive police officers are not the sole purview of the United States.
"If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
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I think it's worth noting that the police officer in this case has been "placed on administrative leave" aka temporarily suspended. Maybe a proper investigation will show otherwise, but I don't think clapping the woman in irons was the best way to resolve the situation, so the officer was probably suspended rightly.
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Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
Wasn't it Divinus who said that there are two kinds of personalities in people who become cops. Those who have a strong desire to right wrongs and believe in justice, and bullies. I can guess which category this doof falls into.
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This seems to be the lawn in question (hidden for sensitive readers):
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What strikes me, is not the police brutality - we have plenty of that. No, for me, it's the lawn, the American psyche, and the incoherent view of property. How can a people, so obsessed with private property and individuality, have turned a, for me, such private, individual and ultimately petty institution as the front lawn, into a communal battlefield?
I should deconstruct America's lawn, but this article goes a long way:
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More.
I think this is the most nonsensical thing that you have ever posted here.Originally Posted by Idaho
"Put 'em in blue coats, put 'em in red coats, the bastards will run all the same!"
"The English are a strange people....They came here in the morning, looked at the wall, walked over it, killed the garrison and returned to breakfast. What can withstand them?"
I know for a fact that you're supposed to get a permit from the local zoning office before painting your house in a different color. They like to ensure that it won't clash violently with the neighboring buildings, you see. This same office will also (when it gets around to it - they're understaffed) remind you that your house is starting to look a bit scruffy and could use some new paint.Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
Luckily we haven't gotten to the stage where it's a law enforced by immediate police action.
If you're fighting fair you've made a miscalculation.
Something I havent seem people mention is the fact that over grown lanws out in the west can become severe fire hazards. One of the main reasons arizona started to promote those desert friendly lawns was to cut down on the risk of fires around houses. Over in CA FL and even in Texas they are going quite hard to promote fire safer lawns out in the country. May not be the reason for this code, but there is a good reason why they exist and why they should exist.Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Wine is a bit different, as I am sure even kids will like it.
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People and their lawns. Barrgh!
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So the vast majority of America's image woes can be fixed by making our uniformed civil servants and military go business casual?Originally Posted by Idaho
Heck, put me in a uniform and I'll be flippin' burgers.![]()
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Eh, Housing Associations are usually fascist scumbags anyway. Get the **** off my lawn would be an appropriate response to them had it not been for the contracts... Gah!![]()
I tell you, I'd have agreed to those shotgun laws from Florida if it means I can shoot them off their self-righteous conformist arses.
Thank you. I was getting scared reading some of the responses before this.Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
Still have bitemarks from these HUGE dogs they have, now I fully agree that picking fights with french police is mighty stupid. Not dutch these guys are, not at all. Ouch. On the bright side, when it's going to rain I can feel it comming, leg starts to hurt. Dunno why.Originally Posted by tristuskhan
Aouch, they released the dogs? How did it come to that point, Fragony? Did you try to test their sense of humour? Bad idea, they have none... They have strict orders to leave their brains in the locker before going out.
"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
Kentoc'h Mervel Eget Bezañ Saotret - Death feels better than stain, motto of the Breton People. Emgann!
Nah they didn't release them, but kindly allowed them to chew on me. I am a hero really. Was on vacation with friends in argeles sur mer, and a group of arabs was harrasing a french girl and I helped her out. They didn't apreciate that, and started to fight. Then the police came and calmed it down the french way. Didn't actually pick a fight with the police.Originally Posted by tristuskhan
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Best of southern France! Cool indigenes, nice dogs, smart police force... Be happy the girl did not try to steal your credit card!
edit: your credit card must have been emptied by rude shopkeepers selling crappy food anyway!
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"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
Kentoc'h Mervel Eget Bezañ Saotret - Death feels better than stain, motto of the Breton People. Emgann!
Wouldn't be of much use, had to pay docter in cash and had a misserable last 3 days. Good vacation all in all, I am sure the germans on our camping haven't forgotten about us. hehe. Sneaked into the karaokebar at 6pm and treated them on my best 'deutschland deutschland alles ist vorbei'. That is when we relocated.Originally Posted by tristuskhan
In case anyone thinks that uniform abuse is typically American (or French) they should look at Russia or South Africa. And in case any Russian or South African starts complaining I have one word for them: Nigeria.Originally Posted by Idaho
"Why Nigeria?" I hear you ask.
Well, have you ever tried to even enter that country without having to appease at least five brutes in uniform?
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