Traits of Roman Generals

[Horst Nordfink]

I only got about 2 adoption proposals in over 100 years, and both of them weren't worth bothering with, but I had to accept them because I had too many provinces that had no Governers.

From what I have read about Roman nobility there doesn't seem to be any proof of them not having any kids. Most of them had 2 or 3 kids, precisely to carry on whatever dynasty to which they belonged. That was how they became senators and moved up the ranks, because of who there fathers and grandfathers were.

The only man I can think of who was a "new man" and worked all the way to Consul was Cicero.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Our game can't represent all the senatorial families - Roman "new men" in our game must also represent men from non-starting families, of which there were a number.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I only got about 2 adoption proposals in over 100 years, and both of them weren't worth bothering with, but I had to accept them because I had too many provinces that had no Governers.

From what I have read about Roman nobility there doesn't seem to be any proof of them not having any kids. Most of them had 2 or 3 kids, precisely to carry on whatever dynasty to which they belonged. That was how they became senators and moved up the ranks, because of who there fathers and grandfathers were.

The only man I can think of who was a "new man" and worked all the way to Consul was Cicero.

Pompey and Marius are two others, in any case, Romans have low fertility in order to increase adoptions, if you aren't getting adoptions you may actually have too many governors already.

The ratio is roughly 1:3 family members : provinces.

[Zaknafien]

And, as you'll see with the new Roman family system we previewed a couple months ago, your dynasties of Roman families will have a little more depth, and the more prominent members of the Roman nobilitas and patricians will be featured.

[Ravenic]

You have the ability to reject your candidates, you know.

Very true, but while turning down the tenth Dull/Uncharismatic/Langorous Plebian I begin to wonder how the Roman's managed, historically.

[Zaknafien]

good shoes, and attitude.

[Horst Nordfink]

Pompey and Marius are two others, in any case, Romans have low fertility in order to increase adoptions, if you aren't getting adoptions you may actually have too many governors already.

The ratio is roughly 1:3 family members : provinces.

Marius I will give you, but Pompeys father was a consul, so Pompey was not a new man.

Regardless, you make a good point.

[Zaknafien]

socially Pompey was considered a provincial nobody and a new man despite his father's recent consulship. Both were new men, as it were. The definition of nobilitas applied, but they were no noble family of old nor any distinguished bloodyline. They were Italians, in fact and not Romans. Much like Marius.

[Horst Nordfink]

Agreed.

Pompey forced the senate to give him the Consulship after his victories in Hispania, despite being 7 years too young to run. So I don't think it made too much difference in the long run.

[sgsandor]

I kind of like the roman dynasty thing like the Scipios. For some odd reason they are just the family name i like the best. I would def like to see more of them and about them