Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
You hate most Americans then. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.I hate that Fox news guy just as much as I hate Moore, damn right-wing facisimmo. That guy infuriates me all those things he mentioned are basic human rights,
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Then I respect your opinion(s).Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
But it's ridiculous to claim that passing public health will lead to more Socialist measures, that's just propaganda scare tactics. Personally I like the dodgy system we have here. The Public Health doesn't cover everything, but it makes it a lot less. Like when I bought glasses I saved AU$150 of AU$700; or when I go to the dentist save AU$75-100 of AU$300-350; or when my mother had dental surgery she saved between AU$250-500 of AU$2000-2500. Here the government promotes getting Private Health Insurance as well, so if you combine the two you can save a fair amount of the costs.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Gawain, if I ever catch you using the words "Bill O'Reilly," "represent" and "America" in the same sentence again, I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap.
Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Bill O'Reilly represents the vast Right Wing audience that watches Bill O'Reilly.
Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
n. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.Gawain, if I ever catch you using the words "Bill O'Reilly," "represent" and "America" in the same sentence again, I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap.
Ever hear his position on the war?
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
I'd definitely classify O'Reilly as more of a right of center populist. He calls himself a "traditionalist" which I suppose fits ok.n. Bill is a bit rightwing but hes far from some right wing nut job. I would imagine he pretty much represents whats the opinion of most Americans on this matter. We dont want it thank you very much.
Ever hear his position on the war?
Regardless, he's no conservative. How can you tell? Because whenever he highlights a problem, he more often than not looks to the government and lawmakers to provide a fix via new legislation/regulation. Not a conservative trait.
He does have a huge audience, but I don't have much use for him.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
I haven't watched the clips and I don't care. I can guess what's happening. A debate about a different health care system in the U.S. is being killed by corporate media.
It's the same with Al Gore's views. The guy is ridiculed so the subject doesn't have to be discussed. Audiences fall for this every time. Good night.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
I like my nanny state.
Also Adrian, this reminds me of Dr. Rath, here's a promo video if you don't know him. Claims that we could cure cancer but the pharmaceutical companies keep people sick to earn more money, sounds somewhat similar to Michael Moore in some respects. Of course he is taken apart in the media and after a boy who he claimed to have healed died, there was more controvercy. I personally don't know who's right, I'm no expert on that topic, like usual, they both seem to have good points.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Moore and Gore only have themselves to blame. When reality of the situation isn't sexy enough or scary enough they simply resort to distortion, exaggeration and outright lies. I don't think either of them are interested in a dialogue- they're trying to force everyone to their position with intimidation and scare tactics.
You might be surprised then. In the CNN clip, it's nothing but Moore blathering on with disjointed points in inane babble- generally sounding like the lunatic he is.I haven't watched the clips and I don't care. I can guess what's happening. A debate about a different health care system in the U.S. is being killed by corporate media.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
I can't be bothered to familiarize myself with the subject of the discussion, but I'll do you a favor and tell you whats really going on anyway.
Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Which "conservatives" are we talking about here? 'Cause the ones I know all love their big-government debt machine, just so long as they're in charge. Reagan? Big government spending. Bush I? Big government spending. Bush II? Biggest government spending of all time.
Who are these "conservatives" you speak of, and where do we find them?
Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Oh God, there's a living Bill O RLY fan. Next you'll tell me you agree with Ann Coulter, right, right!?
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
YA RLY!*
As for the censored censor that is Coulter, I simply ignore her, same with Michael Moore. I can't stand to listen to people like that, where the message might be something I even agree with, but it's delivered in such a condescending, rude, sensationalist, idiotic manner that it's not worth the time and brain cells it'd take to listen to them. Indeed half the message is not just the content but the context in which it's delivered, which more than a few people here in the backroom could stand to learn a lesson on that.
* I don't watch Willyburger's show, just jumped at the joke.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Im not an O'Reilly fan. Hes too far left for me.Oh God, there's a living Bill O RLY fan. Next you'll tell me you agree with Ann Coulter, right, right!?
Yup and Im not saying he echoes most people on everything but he does on this topic.I'd definitely classify O'Reilly as more of a right of center populist. He calls himself a "traditionalist" which I suppose fits ok.
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Adrian, you might have a point about stifling debate, but isn't Michael Moore himself doing the same thing? Why do we have to have one of two options forced upon us? Germany and Japan employ a system that offers some state support but could not be considered a true 'universal health care' in the British or French sense. Why aren't we allowed to consider option "C"?
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
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Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
Now that's a new one.
Re: Michael Moore loses it and attacks CNN
If O' Reilly represents America all I have to say is: "Nice meeting you, see you on the other side".
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